Wavy Grover tuner question

86kubicki · Post by **86kubicki** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:57 pm

I remember outbidding Dave on a set of Grovers from the UK just before he introduced himself on the forum. When it comes to older 4001's you can never have enough wavy Grovers!

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:35 pm

Dave 's got more spares than I have actually attached to basses, here's my twelve-

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:13 pm

I have never been comfortable with the short 70s headstocks either ... I had a 68 4001 for all those years and now I have new rics with the 60s shape headstocks ... the short ones just look wrong to my eye ... plus maple headwings look wrong also ...

but I do love the 70s walnut neck stripe ... especially on a mapleglo ...

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:36 pm

More Grovers for sale....

The Emp, unfortunately....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1966-to-1973-RICKENBACKER-4001-4000-4003-BASS-TUNERS_W0QQitemZ330033805122QQihZ014QQcategoryZ41439QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

dswp · Post by **dswp** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:00 am

Mark, just never change your strings and you will not need any spares. That's when Grovers like to blow up the most.

wints · Post by **wints** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:35 am

"Grover" Pascoe is currently the man for the lovers of old tuners!

Let's hope in this case, they fail miserably to reach the "$300-400" quoted...

chefothefuture · Post by **chefothefuture** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:58 pm

I need some more......

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:04 am

"I know for sure they'll never come apart like 2nd version Grovers often do."

So...there are two versions of the wavy Grover tuner? How do I know which one I have? I bought an NOS set. They have no date on them. Would the re-swaging method be the same for both versions?

Jeff R- The short headstock is where its at! It ran continuously from '72 or so 'till '97. The 60's headstock didn't have as long a run because it is ugly.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:58 am

I like the short ones on the 4001/3, but I love the massive headstocks on the 4004's. When I pulled this one out of the case it was the first thing that caught my eye.

jps · Post by **jps** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:27 am

That is shaped exactly like my '67.

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:52 am

Grover1

and Grover2

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:13 am

Thanks for your post Ben, but I don't think that's what Sergio meant here:

"Let's get heretic, shall we? A few months ago I decided to replace the original but no longer reliable Grovers on my April '74 4001 with... Japanese-made copies, the kind some '70s fakers came fitted with. They're the same footprint and they're totally reliable - I know for sure they'll never come apart like 2nd version Grovers often do."

The Grovers that you've posted are:

Photo #1: The beloved "Wavy" Grover, a.k.a. the Grover Propeller tuner. I think Sergio is saying that there are two versions of this.

Photo #2: Grover Titans(Which look bomb-proof to me!)

Am I wrong here?

jps · Post by **jps** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:35 am

There were two versions of the Slimline tuners, non-wavy and wavy. The Titans are a totally different model.

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:41 am

Ahhhh....Is that what he was talking about? Thanks, Jeff. I thought he meant that there was an earlier and a later version of the wavy (Propeller) tuner.

I knew about the flat Grovers. I distinguish between the two by calling one the flat Grover and the other the Wavy Grover.