Did I really mess it up???

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:24 am

I noticed the lower horn too, almost like they rounded it off too much when it was built but decided to go with it. The upper horn looks normal.

snowdog · Post by **snowdog** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:40 pm

Shure, shaun.

Alex.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:35 pm

Love those Grovers, somebody bit the end off that TRC though, that's about a $250 mistake, oops.
The TRC doesn't fit up against the two tone nut(?)
very well, wrong type screws, back of headstock looks very nice though.

snowdog · Post by **snowdog** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:01 pm

Mark, see what i have found!!

a may be buyer (also a forumite here) asked me to lift the TRC to see if maybe some-one......

This is what we found

The rod-adjusters don't seem original. I know I've seen them somewhere, i think on fender-like guitars.

And it looks like the person who performed this action had to widen the compartment to fit in a wrench to remove the original nuts??

Anyway, the neck is still straight after all these years.

What's your opinion?

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:02 pm

Reminds me of those Fender bullet truss rods.

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:10 pm

I agree, John. Gee, someone sure got, uh, "creative" there...

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Truss_rods/Adjusting_nuts/Fender-style_Bullet_Truss_Rod_Nut.html

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:46 pm

You might want to do something to prevent those old Grover keys from bashing around in that compartment!
It looks like pretty tight quarters in there, & someone (it may have been JH) posted that lateral contact with the case is a common way that those Grovers go their reputation for falling apart.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:10 pm

I was the one that brought up the "moving around in the case theory", JH just stated that when the production of the Grovers moved overseas, the swaging was not as good. It's not the first time somebody has substituted for the truss rod nuts, I assume the originals got chewed up and another set was hard to find, I would replace those if it was mine.

ilan · Post by **ilan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:12 pm

That's very creative. 10-32 is the same thread as on pre-85 Ric rods. And you can adjust them with an allen wrench. I like that.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:29 pm

Sorry Mark!
I'm still rather foggy over the whole "swaging" thing. I haven't dared to remove any of my old wavies yet.

fran4001 · Post by **fran4001** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 pm

Hey, that's a pretty spiffy two-tone brown and white nut on that thing too!

henry5 · Post by **henry5** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:04 am

When the trussrods on my 72 were replaced, John Diggins fitted a similar arrangement. Slightly different than those, but still allen key adjustable. Not that I've needed to use them....

snowdog · Post by **snowdog** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:37 am

Hi, guys!

I did it. Sold her. Gone. She doesn't live here anymore..........
And it feels funny. Like bringing a stray cat to an asylum. Especialy since I learned so much more about her these last two weeks.

But the good new is: Her new owner is also a member of this great forum!
Bert Heitling contacted me a week ago by e-mail and eversince we had allmost daily contact. We agreed on a price and yesterday he came and picked it up.

It's been really nice to read so many affectionate and constructive replies to my post.

Thanks, Kevin, Mark, Mark, andrew Allen, Jared, Ilan, Shaun, John, John and Fran!

And take her away, Bert! I know she's in good hands now!

Alex

berth · Post by **berth** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:30 am

berth · Post by **berth** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:44 am

I'm sure she will feel at home with her new family Alex.

Here you can see a Picture of her and her new family:
Family portrait