What does a 4004L or 4004cii sound like?

firstbassman · Post by **firstbassman** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:54 pm

Michael and Mark G,

Thanks VERY much for the info. A great help and much appreciated. I think I'll keep my eyes open for one. Or MAYBE order one and wait two years for it. After all, I certainly don't have to have a new bass now. (However, having to wait for the anniversary 330 is killing me.)

I Googled 4004s before I posted and the brown one at POTR, I believe, said Sold.

Yes, Michael, I am in NoVA (Fairfax County). So far I've only driven around Richmond on my way to Williamsburg. But I'll keep it in mind, thanks! Same here. If you're ever up my way and want to stop by, let me know.

edski · Post by **edski** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:56 pm

Not all Laredo's have bland colors:

Jeff Rath might call this a "mecurichrome" glo, but like John Hall stated in another thread (about another bass) the quality of a cheap digital camera doesn't do it justice. It might be a little more pink than the standard FG, but I love it.

Jeff - just kidding!

rickfan63 · Post by **rickfan63** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:15 pm

That's a beautiful bass!

green_us90 · Post by **green_us90** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:18 pm

The 4004 pups sound darker than 4003 of 4001 pups, no doubt, in my opinion.

But with 500K Vol-VOl-Tone Pots and a .05uf cap, they CAN clank.

I have 2 in my Frickenbird hybrid project, and it has a '95 USA Fender Precision neck (graphite rods) and Roto 66's, that think sounds like a piano!

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:28 pm

Here's a look at the maple sandwich;

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:33 pm

Jared - you're going to go blind if you keep looking at that!

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:48 pm

already have glasses...

firstbassman · Post by **firstbassman** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:24 am

Very handsome equipment guys.

Dave, can you explain a little what you mean by "darker?"

Thanks!

rikk · Post by **rikk** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:24 am

Mark, I just posted a comparison between hi-gains and HB1's. Although it is not a 4004 you can hear the difference.
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markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:06 am

Here's a better shot of the maple/walnut sandwich that Jared referred to.....mmmm delicious!

bassduke49 · Post by **bassduke49** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:36 am

Actually, Jared, the one that you (and I) covet is built differently than the current "sandwich" style. When the first of the Cheyenne IIs came out, they were built like the Cheyenne I with the addition of a maple top (only). The backs looked exactly like the Cheyenne I. Later on, the maple/walnut/maple sandwich, as in Mark's shot, became the production standard. The heavily quilted ones that we've seen in photos appear to be this earlier construction. The one pictured above with the maple fretboard was the prototype of the CII series and lives at the RIC showroom. It was used onstage at the 75th anniversary concerts. All the other CIIs (as far as I can tell) had bubinga fretboards.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:56 am

yesh!

green_us90 · Post by **green_us90** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:55 am

"Dave, can you explain a little what you mean by "darker?"

More scooped, to my ears the 4004's have less bark and led mids. They do have treble which is brought out with the 500K pots. They are REMARKABLY quiet, powerful, hot piclups. I suspect using a .022uf Cap would help em clank even more!

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:05 am

my 1998 4004ci5 oil finish has a real warm mid voiced growl to it ... it growls better than a p-bass ... it does not have as many highs and lows as a 4003 ... My 1993 4004L-5 has a lot of treble bite and plenty of low end ... with the 1000k pots it has a real Squire bite to it ... but still different than the 4003 ... the 4003 has a classic single coil growl ...

The newer 4004 basses have a bubinga fretboard ... bubinga is a bright sounding wood but maple is brighter ...

jps · Post by **jps** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:17 pm

Here is another view of the sandwiching with the through neck showing.