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YESSPEAK DVD is excellent. Lots of live footage including the FISH. There are also features allowing you to focus on different band members with great Chris Squire section. It is recorded during the 35th Anniversary European Tour. Narrated by Roger Daltrey. Issued by dts (DVD7065X)
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There is a live version of Tempus Fugit (New York 1980) and Sound Chaser (Detroit 1976) as well as many, many others on a 3 CD set called 'YES The Word is Live'. Some of the mixes are not real good but I like live performances - that's why the kids got it for me. There is a version of the Fish in a medley from 1978. Worth a listen.
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That explains it. Cause I was just thinking, I was told theres like 12 bass lines to that song. Iv never tryd to count, but theres alot going on there. Tempus Fugit is just awesome tho. I think I probly play the main lick of that song every day. Anytime I pick up a pick. I dont believe iv heard Sound Chaser tho. I just searched thru my itunes and didn't see it. So that makes it unlikely.
Im going have to get some videos of them. Chris has became a pretty big influence and one of my favorite players. Be nice to see him play.
This is a tad off topic, but speaking of live records and videos. Have any of you guys seen and of the Philosopher kings? I know they have a live album thats just amazing. Love to see that one too. If you cats dont mind, name off some other good videos I should check out. Xmas is coming up maybe ill pick up a few. Band doesn't matter.
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Im going have to get some videos of them. Chris has became a pretty big influence and one of my favorite players. Be nice to see him play.
This is a tad off topic, but speaking of live records and videos. Have any of you guys seen and of the Philosopher kings? I know they have a live album thats just amazing. Love to see that one too. If you cats dont mind, name off some other good videos I should check out. Xmas is coming up maybe ill pick up a few. Band doesn't matter.
Thanks.
"Drama" is forbidden because both Rick Wakeman and Jon Anderson didn't play on that album, and thus they basically veto playing anything from it live (Rick is kind of a jerk about it . . . apparently he really dislikes Geoff Downes, whom I think is an amazing keyboardist). I guess I can understand why they would do that, but every song on "Drama" is ten TRILLION times better than anything off of "Tormato" (except "Onward", which is great), yet they still insist on playing stuff off of that album.
When Chris plays "The Fish" live, he does one bass part, and usually the other guys play the other bass parts, but on guitar, keys, etc. Then Chris improvises for maybe 8 minutes or so, and then they finish up. The solos can be anything from brilliant to boring to atrocious, depending. I believe during "WhiteFish" that Steve Howe actually pulls out his own Rickenbacker 4001 (reserved for just such an occasion) and he and Squire duke it out onstage, during which they play significant portions of "Machine Messiah" and "Tempus Fugit", though not the bits that include vocals.
The studio version of "The Fish" is, I believe, 4 bass tracks layered on top of each other. There might be more, but I don't remember. On is just playing two notes in drop-D, another is playing chords (which are played by Steve Howe when they perform live), and the other two are doing some crazy runs and scales and lines and such. It's a very cool track, but I think you'd have trouble playing it all yourself, unless you prerecorded the other parts and then triggered them to play while you were doing the lead part.
I'm willing to bet you would LOVE "Sound Chaser". It's one of Squire's most challenging and complex bass parts ever. In fact, the whole song is pretty insane. Just get the "Relayer" album, of which it is the second track. It's totally worth it.
Also, you don't have to play Squire licks with a pick, though it certainly nails the sound. I usually end up playing "Roundabout" and "Heart of the Sunrise" with my fingers and I figured out a way to strike the strings so that they sound pick-ish. Though it is certainly good practice for playing with a pick.
When Chris plays "The Fish" live, he does one bass part, and usually the other guys play the other bass parts, but on guitar, keys, etc. Then Chris improvises for maybe 8 minutes or so, and then they finish up. The solos can be anything from brilliant to boring to atrocious, depending. I believe during "WhiteFish" that Steve Howe actually pulls out his own Rickenbacker 4001 (reserved for just such an occasion) and he and Squire duke it out onstage, during which they play significant portions of "Machine Messiah" and "Tempus Fugit", though not the bits that include vocals.
The studio version of "The Fish" is, I believe, 4 bass tracks layered on top of each other. There might be more, but I don't remember. On is just playing two notes in drop-D, another is playing chords (which are played by Steve Howe when they perform live), and the other two are doing some crazy runs and scales and lines and such. It's a very cool track, but I think you'd have trouble playing it all yourself, unless you prerecorded the other parts and then triggered them to play while you were doing the lead part.
I'm willing to bet you would LOVE "Sound Chaser". It's one of Squire's most challenging and complex bass parts ever. In fact, the whole song is pretty insane. Just get the "Relayer" album, of which it is the second track. It's totally worth it.
Also, you don't have to play Squire licks with a pick, though it certainly nails the sound. I usually end up playing "Roundabout" and "Heart of the Sunrise" with my fingers and I figured out a way to strike the strings so that they sound pick-ish. Though it is certainly good practice for playing with a pick.
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Theres also the harmonics going on in "the Fish". I play that part all the time when I get bord or something. I wanted to learn it but decided against it.
Iv played them without a pick. I can do it but its just not as much fun. Roundabout is a hard one to get. I try'd learning that song but for some reason getting the 1st part was just to much. I could do it just not well enough really. Theres alot to that song. At the time I wasn't very friendly with a pick either. Now I use one often. If Im playing my ric then I use it alot more as well.
Ill have to pick up that album sometime.
Doesn't Chris own the rights to just about everything Yes tho. I heard he owns the name, and has been just about the only person thats been in the band for the whole time. I guess I figured he'd own the rights to just about everything else too.
Iv played them without a pick. I can do it but its just not as much fun. Roundabout is a hard one to get. I try'd learning that song but for some reason getting the 1st part was just to much. I could do it just not well enough really. Theres alot to that song. At the time I wasn't very friendly with a pick either. Now I use one often. If Im playing my ric then I use it alot more as well.
Ill have to pick up that album sometime.
Doesn't Chris own the rights to just about everything Yes tho. I heard he owns the name, and has been just about the only person thats been in the band for the whole time. I guess I figured he'd own the rights to just about everything else too.
Oh geez, how could I forget about those harmonics. Haha, that's like, the most recognizable part of the song!
The tough thing about Roundabout is not playing with a pick, but rather, getting the actual rhythm right. I haven't found any tabs that have it correct, and I ended up just listening to the piece over and over until I got it. Every transcription I've seen either doesn't have any muted notes or it has too many notes altogether.
I hope this comes out right...
e = eight note, s = sixteenth note, x=muted note
e s s e s s e s e s s s
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0 x x 2 x x 3 x 5 x ---
There are a couple variations where the first note, the open E, is tied over a measure line, so it ends up being longer than just an eighth note, but you can hear when that happens in the song. You can also just use open A, open D, and the second fret E instead of shifting up, but I found it easier to mute staying on just two strings.
The tough thing about Roundabout is not playing with a pick, but rather, getting the actual rhythm right. I haven't found any tabs that have it correct, and I ended up just listening to the piece over and over until I got it. Every transcription I've seen either doesn't have any muted notes or it has too many notes altogether.
I hope this comes out right...
e = eight note, s = sixteenth note, x=muted note
e s s e s s e s e s s s
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------------------5 7
0 x x 2 x x 3 x 5 x ---
There are a couple variations where the first note, the open E, is tied over a measure line, so it ends up being longer than just an eighth note, but you can hear when that happens in the song. You can also just use open A, open D, and the second fret E instead of shifting up, but I found it easier to mute staying on just two strings.
Oh, I should also add that he plays it differently live all the time. I think every live version I've ever heard sounds different not only from the recorded version, but from each other as well. There's even one where I swear he's playing the part an octave up! He likes to change stuff up a lot when playing songs live.
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John, as to my use of the word "forbidden", ditto what Robert posted. Jon & Rick both seem to ignore the record completely, maybe they have their own good reasons, but for me, (a Fan) it's like this...
Drama is possibly my favorite Yes album. I've been listening to Yes since Fragile, but it wasn't until Drama was released that I realized Chris Squire's real role in the band. He stepped up so strong on that record that he's been my favorite musician ever since. I hope he continues to write as much as possible, be it with Yes, Syn, Billy Sherwood or solo. His voice and vocal style have a unique Medieval feel that has a calming effect on me (Turn of the Century, The More We Live, to name two) and his bass playing is masterful... again, not so much for the technique (which is great) but for how musical the lines are and how they compliment the arrangements. I also love "Onward" and would like a version with Chris singing lead, it's his song.
As a guitarist (who also warms up to Tempus Fugit when playng bass, Jacob, as well as the riff from CTTE, a real finger bender for me) I feel that bassist, as true artists, have a most difficult task in writing. To keep the low spectrum covered while still adding musically, without choking the arrangement is a daunting task. Those players that can do so have always had my respect. That's why I love the sound of a Rickenbacker bass. It seems to be the choice of such players that can be felt and heard. They cut through the mix.
I also think that the Yessongs LP version of The Fish is best. Too bad it didn't make the movie.
Drama is possibly my favorite Yes album. I've been listening to Yes since Fragile, but it wasn't until Drama was released that I realized Chris Squire's real role in the band. He stepped up so strong on that record that he's been my favorite musician ever since. I hope he continues to write as much as possible, be it with Yes, Syn, Billy Sherwood or solo. His voice and vocal style have a unique Medieval feel that has a calming effect on me (Turn of the Century, The More We Live, to name two) and his bass playing is masterful... again, not so much for the technique (which is great) but for how musical the lines are and how they compliment the arrangements. I also love "Onward" and would like a version with Chris singing lead, it's his song.
As a guitarist (who also warms up to Tempus Fugit when playng bass, Jacob, as well as the riff from CTTE, a real finger bender for me) I feel that bassist, as true artists, have a most difficult task in writing. To keep the low spectrum covered while still adding musically, without choking the arrangement is a daunting task. Those players that can do so have always had my respect. That's why I love the sound of a Rickenbacker bass. It seems to be the choice of such players that can be felt and heard. They cut through the mix.
I also think that the Yessongs LP version of The Fish is best. Too bad it didn't make the movie.
You can never own too many guitars!
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I love how Chris can play something thast rather crazy and just fast and complex then stop and go right into a groove playing 1 note or so. I just find it awesome. I also like how he uses the fretboard.
Robert- Yeah I learned the riff. Chip taught me the notes and all that. And I can get it, I just cant get the feeling of it right. Mine blurrs together more then his does. I guess just from trying to keep up. His seems to be like 4 burst I guess. Gives it a really kool feel. Only way I knew to discribe it. If I remember correctly tho, the rest of the song wasn't to crazy to get. Its been awhile and Iv forgotten most of it cus I didn't stay with it for too long. Spent all my time trying to get that one lick lol.
You know another album I like of theirs is Big Generator. Iv heard that everyone seems to think that one sucked. I didn't like it as much at 1st. But after taking a break from Yes, then getting back into it with learning stuff from 90125. I really grew to dig some of their stuff I didn't so much before (Big generator).
Robert- Yeah I learned the riff. Chip taught me the notes and all that. And I can get it, I just cant get the feeling of it right. Mine blurrs together more then his does. I guess just from trying to keep up. His seems to be like 4 burst I guess. Gives it a really kool feel. Only way I knew to discribe it. If I remember correctly tho, the rest of the song wasn't to crazy to get. Its been awhile and Iv forgotten most of it cus I didn't stay with it for too long. Spent all my time trying to get that one lick lol.
You know another album I like of theirs is Big Generator. Iv heard that everyone seems to think that one sucked. I didn't like it as much at 1st. But after taking a break from Yes, then getting back into it with learning stuff from 90125. I really grew to dig some of their stuff I didn't so much before (Big generator).