Ken's selling the 4002

86kubicki · Post by **86kubicki** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:59 am

$4-5K may be on the mark for an issue-less 4002, but the lack of the original electronics, (which are basic impossible to source), should affect the price. Also it was at one time equipped with a non-RIC tailpiece, so who knows if theres any funny business under the bridge (as well as it not being original). Still, a rare piece, but I'm thinking it should be more in the $3-3.5K range. Good luck to Ken and as always, the market will dictate the value.

linganstan · Post by **linganstan** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:20 am

J.H. {in a post on the ric site}, told me not to insure mine for less than $5000.00 USD

86kubicki · Post by **86kubicki** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:06 am

John is just setting the table before releasing his pallet of 4002's!

thinneckrick · Post by **thinneckrick** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:17 am

I read a thread on the dude pit awhile ago about this bass . Ken mentioned that it had a bow in the neck he couldnt get out . I dont know if it is fixed now . But my guess is it is not . Thats probably why he is selling it in my opinion. Anyone that has an all original or even close to all original 4002 is sitting on a large chunk of gold Thats for sure.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:48 am

There's certainly more out there than we're aware of, & owners of unmodified 4002's most likely will never part with theirs, judging by their comments to that effect. It seems that the owners are all players, not collectors or speculators.
The price for one of these all-originals will likely remain purely speculation.

aceonbass · Post by **aceonbass** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 12:56 pm

If I had a 4002 that was missing all of it's original electronics package, pickguard and tailpiece, I would do exactly what Ken has done as far as restoring it. That said, since the original electronics and guard were virtually irreplaceable and the replacement parts were not the same, the price should be much lower. If he does however get 5K for this bass then it will set a precedent which should drive the price of a complete original bass much higher. If I had to have original pickups, I would think they'd be worth a grand for the pair, especially considering what people are paying for reproduction horseshoes on Ebay.

bottom4 · Post by **bottom4** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:11 pm

What is a 4002 without the original electronics, a 4001?

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:18 pm

No way, Andy! You're still getting that Fender Jazz-style pickup placement, 21-fret ebony board, and really cool/unique cosmetics.

bottom4 · Post by **bottom4** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:22 pm

You know, I never noticed the different pickup placement!

It is a cool bass – not 5K for me anyway…

dswp · Post by **dswp** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:28 pm

It took me 25 years to find one. If you are thinking about get one, buy it, for it WILL be a long time before another comes up for sale.

Mine is not even close to 100% original but it sounds awesome. I believe that the un-routed wood at the neck/body joint has a lot to do with it.

aceonbass · Post by **aceonbass** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:30 pm

I think the pickup placement on the 4002 has the biggest effect on the sound. I've got the same placement on the 5-string neck of my doubleneck and it's so much more "solid" than the standard placement.

linganstan · Post by **linganstan** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:56 pm

i wasn't that fussy about the sound of my 4002.......until i uncapped it............completely different bass now.............

40014002 · Post by **40014002** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:26 pm

I have a near mint all original 4002 that I purchased in 1982 for £600 so I watch this one on ebay with great interest.

linganstan · Post by **linganstan** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:39 pm

what finish is on yers david ?????

mine's the birdseye MG.........just got a new digital camera....i should takes pics and post em..........

40014002 · Post by **40014002** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:04 pm

Dale mines the same as yours here are a couple of pictures.

all the best Dave Carr