Squire's style and basslines?

walker · Post by **walker** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:48 am

Just caught up with Jim's last post - what's this about a "lost" section from CTTE? You're referring to the title track?

just_bassics · Post by **just_bassics** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:11 am

Yes - There was a section of CTTE that came after the organ solo that was removed while the track was being pieced together and was never found... the splice point is obvious. The band themselves could not remember what they played in that section, as the whole song was spliced together a section at a time. They finally decided to to forget the section and learned to play it as it exists on the record today. It would be very interesting if that section where to come to light...

I believe Eddie Offord was credited for removing the section as an experiment and misplacing it. The were moving at 100 MPH in those days and some things just got lost. Even Steve Howe admits to "many classic bits going right out the window" for various reasons.

walker · Post by **walker** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:27 am

Wow! That IS amazing. It would be fascinating to hear that section if it ever reappeared. There are some obvious splice points in 'And You And I' also. I wonder if there was an original longer version of that song, too.

just_bassics · Post by **just_bassics** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:39 am

Rick Wakeman stated at this show (his solo tour last June) That it was "his job" in the band to work arrangements together since he had the "formal training". He said the other would leave him at the piano to tie the arrangements together while they would go and "drink tea" (his words!). One of his arrangements was a complete version of "And you and I" where he plays all parts on piano, which he then performed right in front of us... it was amazing, he was playing AYAI with all of the voices going at once, all on a baby grand with no sequencing (and by all voices, I mean he had guitar, bass & vocal lines all fused into a wonderful swirling rendition). If a DVD comes out from one of these shows, you MUST get one... Wakeman is unbelievable and he was in rare form on this tour. He talked a lot about Yes and shared a lot of stories from the studio. And I almost missed it. Now if Chris would do a tour and share some of his thoughts... the really cool thing about Yes, that Wakeman made me realize, is that whatever differences they might have, they also have an incredible amount of respect for each other. So many untold stories... maybe that could be the theme of a new concept album for them.

ram · Post by **ram** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:26 am

Untold Stories.... good name and a good concept. I think the legion of fans would soak it up quickly.

I have always felt there was so much we never heard. Just looking at them I see tremendous talent, egos with genuine respect for each other. It would take the talent and ego to do what they did (going where no man had gone before). And the egos would have ripped things apart if there had not been the respect they had/have for each other.

Chris and Steve and Alan had a tour set (smaller venues) with individual stuff, as I understood it. But it was canceled with the London rail bombings – concerned about visa issues was the stated reason. Maybe that would have come close to what Jim was talking about. Perhaps in the future.

jps · Post by **jps** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:48 am

I had tickets to that show, which was called "More Drama". Bummer that it was cancelled, but because of that I got to see The Syn instead!

ram · Post by **ram** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:50 pm

I had tickets too - it was canceled and i didn't get to see the Syn...

law · Post by **law** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:18 am

Well this certainly turned into a heck of a thread. Makes me proud to know I started it.HA!
The insight from everyone as to Squire's musical backgrounds is very helpful. I actually recently went and picked up some English church music and you can hear exactly where he got his counterpoint style from. Thanks everyone. It would so much easier if CS would just show up on the forum to answer all these questions.

ram · Post by **ram** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:34 am

I duno - I can see him lurking but actually here in thread.... that might become a little unmanageable.

Or maybe he does already participate under a pen name... hahahahahah just kidding on the last one.

walker · Post by **walker** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:39 pm

Heads-up to the folks who requested the "Yes - Short Tales" CD - it's going out in the mail tomorrow.

Also, I spammed the track info to you guys, so check your "bulk" folder if you don't see it in your inbox.

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:08 pm

Mark, I missed out asking for a copy, is it too late?

walker · Post by **walker** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:59 am

Not at all, John. Just send your shipping address to my off-forum email.

aceonbass · Post by **aceonbass** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:26 am

Me,me,me! I want one too!

just_bassics · Post by **just_bassics** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:48 am

oh oh, Mark, see what you started? By the way, thanks for the interesting edit versions. And Yes, I caught the overdub!

ajish4 · Post by **ajish4** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:37 am

Hey Mark,

THANK YOU, mine arrived yesterday but I haven't had a chance to listen to it....tonight, I have plans to spend time with my CD player and a glass of vino!

Thanks again!
Very kind of you!