12 as 6

Vintage, Modern, V & C Series, Signature & Special Editions

Moderators: rickenbrother, ajish4

Post Reply
uffe
Junior Member
Posts: 137
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:14 pm

12 as 6

Post by uffe »

sorry for the naive question, but is it common practice for folks to string 12s as 6s? Is there a significant difference in feel between a 6 and a 12 strung as a 6 (the necks are more or less the same, right)?
User avatar
emjayw
Junior Member
Posts: 124
Joined: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:36 pm

Post by emjayw »

In order for the string spacing to "feel" right as a 6, you would have to change bridge saddles and the nut. Otherwise, I suppose you could just leave off the octave strings and pairs and play it like a slightly "strange" six-string. A neck re-set would probably be necessary.
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me..than a frontal lobotomy!"
mrtidy
Junior Member
Posts: 104
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:00 am

Post by mrtidy »

I've done it when ever I've owned a 12. It doesn't feel that weird to me. Sometimes the neck needs to be adjusted... but not re-set!
Never pet a burning dog
will_nesbitt
Member
Posts: 204
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:49 am
Contact:

Post by will_nesbitt »

I own a 12 and would personally not be happy with taking 6 strings off it and would not be attempting it myself. It is very possible, but if i was to do it, I wouldn't have the extra 6 strings off it for less than half a day or more than a gig's worth, otherwise I think I would have issues with the neck, but if you can live with the probable need for adjustments, I don't see why you can't attempt it.

I guess another way of getting around this issue is not a cheap one by any means, but you could just buy a 6 string version and a 12 string version of a model
I'm a lefty...
randyz
Advanced Member
Posts: 1677
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:39 am

Post by randyz »

A 12-strings strung as a 6-strings often buzz a lot due to unused tuners and loose bridge saddles. And the truss rods will need to be adjusted. This is generally not a good idea.
uffe
Junior Member
Posts: 137
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:14 pm

Post by uffe »

the reason i ask this is because i've stumbled upon some very cool 12-stringers (cool finishes, pickups etc) for reasonable prices on which I passed simply because they were 12s and I wanted a six. If I were to get one, I wouldn't go back and forth between 12 and 6, so I suppose the playability after a single transition from 12 to 6 can be restored rather easily by loosening the truss rod. Regarding the buzz and rattle, this can be completely avoided by removing the extra tuners and replacing the bridge with a 6-saddle version. I'd be less keen to replace the nut.. I'm guessing the fundamental strings are slightly offset to the bass side compared to the 6-string nuts, but the string spacing is more or less the same since the fretboards are the same for 12s and 6s. is that actually the case?
will_nesbitt
Member
Posts: 204
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:49 am
Contact:

Post by will_nesbitt »

If I were you, I'd just go for a 6 string Ric. 6s and 12s are pretty much the same apart from number of strings, string spacing and a bit of weight difference, you'd probably have less neck dive with a 6 string from less weight from the headstock.

Save yourself the hassle you'd get and just go straight for a 6 string if that's what you're after in the first place
I'm a lefty...
User avatar
admin
Site Admin
Posts: 15123
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2000 5:00 am
Contact:

Post by admin »

Gene: Most guitarists can play most instruments with enough practice.

The strings will not be where you would expect them and as you say, slightly off. You would really need to recut the nut and replace the bridge to do it. Also, the aesthetics of this may not be what you would want. Can it be done, yes to a degree. I am betting you wouldn't like it though.
Life, as with music, often requires one to let go of the melody and listen to the rhythm

Please join the Official RickResource Forum Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/groups/379271585440277
User avatar
lyle_from_minneapolis
Advanced Member
Posts: 2530
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:13 pm

Post by lyle_from_minneapolis »

I'm betting you will have an easier time finding a 6 string than a 12 string anyway...
Here is where I hide my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/MarkKaufman
Post Reply

Return to “Rickenbacker Guitars: by John Simmons”