21 vs. 24 frets

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:31 pm

Question: is the nut -> bridge distance longer for a 24-fret guitar compared to a 21-fret guitar?

If it is, then I suppose the string tension would have to be higher for the 24-fret.

soundmasterg · Post by **soundmasterg** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:45 pm

The nut to bridge distance depends on the scale length of the instrument, and only on that. The number of frets doesn't play into that distance at all, although with more frets, you have less room for pickups.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:15 pm

Rumbush, I too love the 21-fret 360's - i've got a 360 Carl Wilson.

While a reissue model would be nice, I think that RIC would hesitate to do it, as it would potentially devalue the McGuinn and CW models. I can only imagine how much the Tom Petty models would be going for if the 660 and 660/12 weren't currently available.

beefandbones · Post by **beefandbones** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:31 pm

True, but why would RIC care about the resale value of guitars that are no longer in production? It makes no difference to them what those guitars resell for - RIC has already made all the money they're going to make from the sales of those instruments when they were new.

Personally, I would love to see (and own) a 21-fret 370c66 in 6 and (especially) 12 string versions! I've always thought it strange that they don't seem keen on a regular production V or C model New Style 360. Not that I'm not grateful for what we're offered... it just seems odd to me. Like I love the 381, but it seems like they'd sell more 370c66 models than they sell 381's. But most of all I'd love a 4001c68!

karl_teten · Post by **karl_teten** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:22 pm

In what small runs the C models go out, Dale could make the crushed pearl fretboards and send them to Santa Ana.

370C66 Mapleglo!!!

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:35 am

Heh I can see where this thread is going, right down a slippery slope into RICwishlistville.

Anyone besides me ever been there? Oh yeah.

JB, sweet. I bet that CW is a total dish. Any pics you wish to share?. If I found a CW 12-string I'd have to pounce, but I'm not so sure about a 6.

It looks like I'll have to save my pennies for a vintage 360. At least that way I'll get O.G. CP inlays and chequered binding (shudders in bliss at the thought). On the other hand, the CWs are probably still relatively reasonable, right? Maybe about in the $2-2.25k range?

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:36 am

Interesting thought Karl - RIC are "outsourcing" (licensing?) acoustic production to PW so why not CP-inlayed fretboards?? A man without dreams is diminished as a man...

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:50 am

Any pics you wish to share?

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:45 am

Umm...VERY NICE. Very slick looking piece, esp with the trem! Treble p'up much?

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:00 am

Bass pickup more, actually! The scatterwound toaster w/ the 21-fret fingerboard makes for an incredible neck pickup tone.

beefandbones · Post by **beefandbones** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:40 am

Beautiful guitar, John!

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:00 am

Speaking of 21 frets, I notice that this ad for a 381 says "built in December 1991 before Rickenbacker switched to water based lacquers".

Can anyone comment on that finishing technique? This seems to imply that non-water based laquers are better. Is that true?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-381-6-Firglow-16-years-new_W0QQitemZ130075611346QQihZ003QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

rollingricker21 · Post by **rollingricker21** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:09 am

My first bass was 24 frets, I could BARELY even reach them! I never went anywhere near that high, 21 seems perfect for me.

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:22 am

"...makes for an incredible neck pickup tone."

Ouch, RAS pains. Ok, now I really want one - in the venerable Fireglo. I love the neck pickup tone on my 350v63 too. POTR and The Rick Page both have 12-stringers but alas no 6's.

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:00 pm

JB is that your CW that just went up on the bay?

If not, there's another jetglo one with an Accent that went up on ebay