12 String

beatlefreak · Post by **beatlefreak** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:04 pm

What? No cowbell?

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:25 pm

I would have thought Glen played that opening bass lick, it sounds unmistakably Dano-esque, but I suppose it coulda been Carol.

johnashfield · Post by **johnashfield** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:09 pm

On her website she posts stories about recording, I recall her saying Glen Campbell had the best dano baritone guitar...

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:49 pm

I suspected the opening to "California Girls" was a twelver, then knew fer sher when I got my 660/12 and tried it. Sounds very guitar-y to me on the record.

johnashfield · Post by **johnashfield** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:15 pm

When Billy Hinsche played it at the 75th the light bulb went off over my head.

Paul and I spoke about this last week when I picked up a guitar he did a refret and re-radius for me, I too thought it was like 3 keyboards playing the same line, you know the 'wall of sound' thing.

After seeing BW live though a lot of Beach Boys stuff is 12 string.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:42 pm

"Feel A Whole Lot Better" - Byrds. Tom Petty also did a good cover.

The main thing for this song (either on 6 or 12) is to use a good chorus effect.

jimk · Post by **jimk** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:03 am

Chorus effect, or lots of compression? Maybe both?
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sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:31 am

No chorus. Lots of treble and compression.

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:00 am

I wish TP still played this one live... I think he did it from about '89 (release of Full Moon Fever) until the early 00s... But I didn't see him until 2005.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:53 pm

Well, youz guys are probably right about the Byrds and the compression thing, but I've been playing it for a long time with a 360/6 through a Boss Chorus pedal into a VOX AC15 and it sounds really great (imho

) albeit maybe not exactly like the Byrds record.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:16 pm

Kent - a chorus pedal basically becomes redundant with a 12 string, but it works towards approximating the 12 string sound when you're playing a 6 string.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:49 pm

Hmmmm.... from my (more limited) experience I wouldn't call it redundant. Certainly my 620/12 sounds different with the chorus than without it (in some ways than combination is TOO much stuff going on at once). And on the other hand, the 6-string with the chorus doesn't sound like the 12-string without chorus.

IMHO the chorus is an effect unto itself... it sounds sorta "chorusy" and doesn't sound like anything else. For me it's sound is essential for certain songs but I find that it's best to not use it more than a few times in your basic four 45-min set night.

kelly · Post by **kelly** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:10 pm

Chorus is mandatory for anyone covering "Blurred Crusade" era Church tunes though! I think I read somewhere that Marty Willson-Piper had the chorus from his Ibanez unit on all the time, but only a little bit.

teb · Post by **teb** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:24 am

I had a Roland JC120 here for a few days to see if I wanted to keep it and even on the 360/12 with the Janglebox, the chorus effect added a totally new dimension that was quite nice. On the other hand, it brought up the question of how often you could use the effect before it got really stale and the answer seemed to be "not very often". I didn't keep the amp because it didn't sound as bright and clean as my others, but might someday invest in a pedal for occasional use.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:38 am

I recently sold my Roland JC90. I had it as a solid state backup but every time I used it I couldn't wait to get back to my VOX. I'm surprized to hear that you found it not "bright and clean" enough, because if the JC does ANYTHING it is certainly bright and clean.... but I agree that it has a unique sound and doesn't fit all styles. Its a nice amp but just cant compete with good tube amps like Vox AC15 and Fender Deluxe.