Speaker size
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Speaker size
I don't know if this has been asked but what speaker size is best suited to the Ric bass.I am thinking in terms of combo's,or is it just down to personal taste.I have always used 15" speakers,but i have been reading reviews on combo's with 12" speakers that have said the sound was better.
It really depends on the venue. The 10's are the most versatile indoors IMHO, and 8 of 'em kick outdoors! I see a lot of folks with a 2x10 and a 15. I once had 2 x 12 but thought it a bit "flappy". The larger speakers need more room to move the air(develop the sound). A 15 (for bass) in our little church sounds like mud!
So here's a vote for a 4x10!
So here's a vote for a 4x10!
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incubus2432
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I've mostly used 12's and occasionally 15's. I think Lars point is valid, better sound is so very subjective.
I think cabinet as well as driver design and quality count more to a good sound, in Charly's case the reason the 12's sounded poor to him could be down to poor cabinet design
As for one size being better than another, I don't feel that the diameter alone is the sole factor, nor is the size of the venue linked to the size of the drivers. I've a pair of Klipsch La Scala's for my home Hi Fi, they have 15" drivers and horns and are in a room that's about 25x15, they sound amazing.
When I got my current 4x12 cabinet it came as a sealed box, took me a couple of hours to calculate the dimensions for adding two ports to it which vastly improved it's mid and low end response. I've used these everywhere from outdoors to small bar's with great results.
I think cabinet as well as driver design and quality count more to a good sound, in Charly's case the reason the 12's sounded poor to him could be down to poor cabinet design
As for one size being better than another, I don't feel that the diameter alone is the sole factor, nor is the size of the venue linked to the size of the drivers. I've a pair of Klipsch La Scala's for my home Hi Fi, they have 15" drivers and horns and are in a room that's about 25x15, they sound amazing.
When I got my current 4x12 cabinet it came as a sealed box, took me a couple of hours to calculate the dimensions for adding two ports to it which vastly improved it's mid and low end response. I've used these everywhere from outdoors to small bar's with great results.
"It's Red Jim, but not as we know it...."
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jwr2
Jim is right, it is a synergistic combination of cabinet design, driver quality, and venue in which you play.
In the early 70s I would sometimes bring 8x10 original CTS-loaded SVT infinite-baffle cabs and sometimes original V4B cabs with a pair of white Altec 15s in a rear-loaded W-cabinet (common-center driven folded horns). Personally, I liked the near-field sound of the 8x10s. But our sound guy said that past about 30 feet away from the V4Bs, they "coupled" and really sounded much better far-field than the 8x10s!
So I quit using the 8x10s in larger halls, used V4Bs, and added an Altec 811B horn with a higher-than-normal cutoff freq in the crossover, and a handful of those little piezo tweeters that were so new at the time, in a little PA cabinet, to let me hear the higher freqs that the 4001 Rick is so good at creating
Worked so much better for larger halls, and I kept the 8x10s for little clubs.
Cab design definitely makes a difference!
You have good taste in speakers, by the way, Jim Glen! I am sitting listening to one of my favorite Yes CDs right now on a pair of Klipschorns through the McIntoshes
In the early 70s I would sometimes bring 8x10 original CTS-loaded SVT infinite-baffle cabs and sometimes original V4B cabs with a pair of white Altec 15s in a rear-loaded W-cabinet (common-center driven folded horns). Personally, I liked the near-field sound of the 8x10s. But our sound guy said that past about 30 feet away from the V4Bs, they "coupled" and really sounded much better far-field than the 8x10s!
So I quit using the 8x10s in larger halls, used V4Bs, and added an Altec 811B horn with a higher-than-normal cutoff freq in the crossover, and a handful of those little piezo tweeters that were so new at the time, in a little PA cabinet, to let me hear the higher freqs that the 4001 Rick is so good at creating
Worked so much better for larger halls, and I kept the 8x10s for little clubs.
Cab design definitely makes a difference!
You have good taste in speakers, by the way, Jim Glen! I am sitting listening to one of my favorite Yes CDs right now on a pair of Klipschorns through the McIntoshes
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and sit in with the band whenever you can, to keep your chops up!
Quad was my "dream" HiFi, my Grandfather had an old Quad system when I was growing up.
I was able to get my Quad system (FM4-44-606) when I worked in Hong Kong in 1989 where I also got my Linn Sondeck, they've all worked flawlessly since then.
The only addition I'd consider now is swapping the 606 for a pair of the new Quad 40 tube amps.
I was able to get my Quad system (FM4-44-606) when I worked in Hong Kong in 1989 where I also got my Linn Sondeck, they've all worked flawlessly since then.
The only addition I'd consider now is swapping the 606 for a pair of the new Quad 40 tube amps.
"It's Red Jim, but not as we know it...."
I like my Magneplanar Ics driven by my Aragon 24K and 2004, in conjunction with a Definitive Technologies Super Cube II subwoofer with it's LP filter set at 40Hz amd the Maggies running full range. Talk about high resolution! Along with amazing width and depth to the soundstage.
Oh yeah, I use 15" speakers and get a great full range sound without needing any horns or tweeters.
Oh yeah, I use 15" speakers and get a great full range sound without needing any horns or tweeters.
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jwr2
