Still yearning for a 4005....

claudel · Post by **claudel** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:37 pm

William >> Nice job Claude.

I didn't do any of the actual work :^)

All I did was write a few checks.

Claude

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:47 pm

Looking at Claude's beautiful refin. job reminds me of a question I've always had: how do you finish/refinish a guitar with binding? Do you mask off the binding? Wipe off the finish when wet? Scrape after dry? Finish before binding then cover all with a clearcoat?

I obviously never finished a bound (or otherwise) instrument ...

docbass · Post by **docbass** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:26 pm

I hear ya' Claude. It's still a thing of beauty and you saw its potential. I've wondered that too! Obviously, the pros have a way of managing it. I have a reat local luthier, now if I could just find a beat up 4005.....

claudel · Post by **claudel** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:53 pm

William >> now if I could just find a beat up 4005.....

From experience I can testify that it will be _way_ cheaper
and less stressful to find an already nice one and buy it.
Mine, even tho expertly repaired, was still broken once...

How much did the last one on Ebay wind up going for?

Claude

paul_yan · Post by **paul_yan** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:10 pm

Claude,
It went for $2550.

sneakers · Post by **sneakers** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:45 am

>>Sure. Got $4K?

Yes, I do have $4,000.00. What else do you have to trade? I have a 1980 Alembic Series II Short Scale bass if you're interested. You'll have to add something to the Rick to make it a good deal.

claudel · Post by **claudel** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:06 am

Joe >> You'll have to add something to the Rick to make it a good deal

Not much more than a new set of Thomastics...

Sorry

Claude

P.S. I had a '70 something Alembic. Great Bass.
I wish I still had the white EDS 1275 that I traded for it...

claudel · Post by **claudel** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:22 am

Paul >> It went for $2550

That seems to be a decent price. I didn't see that particular auction.
Bass was in good shape with original parts & case?

I paid roughly $2K for mine, thrashed, 3 or 4 years ago. Approximately another $1200 in luthiery & refinishing plus an astounding ~$800 for a custom built case because the 4005 is _big_ and wont fit standard cases... At the time, money was flowing for me and I didn't mind the expense.
My point, I guess, is that it is cheaper to wait for a deal like the one on EBay recently that it is to do the restoration thing. Plus, one has an all original instrument.

Of course, in this situation, I'd do it again in a heartbeat, finances permitting.
It _did_ turn out wonderfully.

Claude

ken_james · Post by **ken_james** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:06 am

On the refin, you mask the binding, shoot the basecolor, unmask and scrape the binding and then clear over it all. I've done quite a few and it's not very fun work scraping binding.

paul_yan · Post by **paul_yan** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:28 am

I totally agree with Claude that :"it is cheaper to wait for a deal like the one on EBay recently than it is to do the restoration thing. Plus, one has an all original instrument."
Might I add that correct parts (bridge, tailpieces, pickups, ect.) and competitive luthiers are sometimes so hard to locate and it takes a lot of time and patience (and big bucks maybe) to get them.

Claude,
You can click here to see the 4005 FG auction page.
Lets have the pics in this thread for future reference:

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Rickenbacker Bass Guitar one owner 1968 Item number: 2550420319
Bidding has ended for this item (handsoffit is the winner)

Winning bid: US $2,550.00 (Reserve met)
Ended: Aug-14-03 20:22:46 PDT
History: 23 bids (US $1.00 starting bid)
Winning bidder: handsoffit( 43)

Description (revised):
This is a Rickenbacker Bass Guitar I bought new in 1969, I was told by the owner it was a 1968 model that wasnt yet sold. I have the original invoice where I bought it at Ideal Music Co. Atlanta Ga. Dated and made out to me. I have taken very good care of this Guitar, there just is not another sound like the sound of a Rickenbacker Bass. I bought it beacause the Beatles played Rickenbacker, and Stephenwolf also played one just like this bass on Born to be wild. This has the orignal pickups and most all hardware is original, I changed out the bridge recently and had the neck adjusted, harmonics set, etc. The pickup switch is new, I think everything is original, There is not a bad ding on this guitar, but the usual belt scratch is there, and the back of the neck is rubbed a little raw in one place, around the G to A note off the E string, but there again its not enough to hardly notice. This is a beautiful guitar, I just looked up the serial #, this guitar was made in The USA March of 1998. I have the original case included, The case is in pretty rough shape, but It holds together and keeps the guitar from getting dingged. I have played Bass off and on since I bought this one, Its the only one Ive ever owned, I also Pick guitar, and I play a BB king Lucille 335, So when I wasnt playing Bass this was under my bed with the strings loose, If you have any questions please email me, Thanks again and may God Bless you.
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claudel · Post by **claudel** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:44 am

That's a pretty nice one, from the photos.

A more realistic price than what I have in mine as well...

Nothing is ever cheap when _I_ want one :^)

Claude

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:50 am

But.... you have one.

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:45 pm

Oh man is that beautiful! (Could do without the Cavalier, though!)

Kendall: Thanks for the finishing w/binding description. Sounds tedious!

docbass · Post by **docbass** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:08 pm

You are killing me!!! I know I just have to be patient........right! Someday, just maybe....

big_g · Post by **big_g** » Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:55 am

What would a 4005 like this be worth?
http://www.rickbeat.com/modelslibrary/4005-8wb/4005-8wb.htm