OVERPRICED GEAR!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Fri May 25, 2007 1:50 pm

This can be a thread for sharing of listings for excessively-overpriced stuff.

It was all inspired by this Ebay listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160120740008

This is a "legendary" Supro Coronado, reputed to be THE model of amp that one young Jimmy Page used to record those killer solos on LZ1. It's a smallish unit, two 10" speakers (not original in this case), and a few years ago it would have brought about $225.00 on the Ebay.

Now, word's gotten out, and with almost 6 days of a 7-day auction left to go, it's at $1025 and rising. YEE-IKES!

Any other ridiculously overpriced stuff out there? POST 'EM!

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Fri May 25, 2007 2:48 pm

I would say overbid, not overpriced, if these bids are legit.

I've never understood Led Zep fans, and this does nothing to change that.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:58 pm

And, to complicate matters, there are Early LZ fans and Late LZ fans. I'm the former; a fan more of their great musical interpretations of black blues stuff (lots of it from Chicago!) than of the "experience" and "lifestyle" associated with the band (as Later Fans seem to be).

Sometime during the arc of this band's career, it stopped being about the music and feel and began to be about fan's expectations of a good time. Bombast moved in; never left, and brought with it something that killed my enthusiasm for their later stuff.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:21 pm

Amen Paul! The first three albums were awesome!

Although I don't seem to enjoy their music as much as I used to. It feels dated, unlike other stuff that still gets me going. Blues is my favorite genre and Page just seems passe anymore.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:14 pm

Charlie, still, everytime I listen to anything on the first album, it is like a breath of fresh air...mostly the really slow bluesy numbers like "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You", "Dazed and Confused", and "I Can't Quit You, Babe".

The uptempo stuff is good, but when Page gets to stretch out on these three, his tone and style are to me nothing short of archetypal.

lyle_from_minneapolis · Fri May 25, 2007 5:42 pm

Not to mention the astonishing lead solo on "You Shook Me"... that's what people are hoping to buy with that Supro. And they will find, once again, it ain't the equipment, it's the talent.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Fri May 25, 2007 5:48 pm

Yes, I shouldn't include 1 and 2 when I say dated. From the fourth on is really what I meant when I said passe! In fact, I'll que up 1 now on iTunes!

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:15 am

If any of you want to see a ton of over-priced stuff, just type in 'Fender' in the search window on ebay. Case in point...(there are plenty)

http://cgi.ebay.com/1966-FENDER-ELECTRIC-XII-12-STRING-NOS-NEW-OLD-STOCK_W0QQitemZ330124638970QQihZ014QQcategoryZ118989QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This guy is huffing glue, and that's not his only listing.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:20 am

Four guys, but only one that sang. And it is true that unlike Cream and other blues influenced bands that came before (who credited other bluesmen on record labels from the git go) Page stole other's material en masse, though I think a lot of fans refuse to believe it because, more often than not, he got away with it, perhaps because he had the audacity to do it.

Here's the rest:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/jimmypage.html

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:24 am

The thing that got me about it was, aster they finally acknowledged Willie Dixon as the writer of Whole Lotta Love, he was placed last. It still reads Page, Plant, Dixon.

THEY ADDED THREE WORDS! The ones in the title.......

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat May 26, 2007 4:14 am

John S. (and everybody!)--

Those listings for Galaxy Guitar are unbelievable PT Barnum Bulls**t.

A sampling:

This for an NOS Fender XII, on sale for $25K BIN!

IT'S (sp) SUPERIOR TONE & MONSTROUS RECORDING CAPABILITIES ARE UNRIVALED.
THAT'S WHY PAGE, TOWNSEND (sp), BYRDS, JOHNNY WINTER, BEATLES, SONIC YOUTH
& MANY OTHERS USED THIS GUITAR EXCLUSIVELY FOR STUDIO WORK
& IN SOME CASES LIVE PERFORMANCES. (Exclusively? By the Beatles? And, yeah, McGuinn was really known for his work with the Fender 12 string...)

YOU SHOULD GET A WHIF (sp) OF THIS BABY, A PURE NITROCELLULOSE LAQUER (sp) CHEMICAL HIGH! (After 40 years?)

IN MY OPINION, THE FENDER ELECTRIC XII IS THE GREATEST ELECTRIC GUITAR EVER BUILT. (My favorite type of sales hyperbole nonsense...)

YOU MUST BE AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER
WITH FORMIDABLE TECHNIQUE & STAMINA TO TAME SUCH A BEAST. (Oh, PLEEZ. I think having the stamina to read even half of this guy's ALL CAPS trash talk, and having a bulging wallet, just might qualify me.) This sort of "zipper down" pandering to buyers really frosts me. Seems to me anyone smart enough and moneyed enough to be able to afford this instrument (at maybe $8K, its real value), would be motivated by investment potential, not the fantasy of a 12-string sex toy...

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:15 am

It is in a special smell containing case that held that wonderful nitrate smell for 40 years!!! hermetically sealed? Funk and Wagnall's porch?

kenposurf · Post by **kenposurf** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:23 am

I owned a 60's Fender XII a few years back...nice enough tone..not easy to intonate...not the best design Leo did...a few years ago they went for $1500...that kind of cash for one is nutz...even if it was George Harrison's fave guitar...hah!

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sat May 26, 2007 5:27 am

It is amazing...Whole Lotta Love was completely swiped. They should have been re-sued for what Page did. And he stole Dazed and Confused (for some reason the writer felt the need not to litigate, which is just amazing.) Crime in some cases does pay. Anyway, what Page had done in rock exceeds the steroids scandals in baseball and biking.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat May 26, 2007 7:32 am

Glenn...stuck in a rut? LOL...

George and everyone:

The best design Leo did was the Tele...also a tough sell. But a groundbreaking exercse in bulletproof manufacturing, excellent costing, great tone (for its day and type of music) and just plain lateral thinking.

The Strat was only a few years later. If he'd done the Strat first, would the resistance have been so much as to scuttle Fender?