Stripped and Ready for Action!

Vintage, Modern, V & C series, Fretless, Signature & Special Editions

Moderators: rickenbrother, ajish4

Post Reply
cornishmusic
New member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:16 am
Contact:

Stripped and Ready for Action!

Post by cornishmusic »

I've just switched bands, from an instrumental prog/rock trio to a full on blues rock trio in the style of Rory Gallagher / Hendrix. Three nights of gigs in a row,and I'm playing a lot harder (and working up some real perspiration!) the 4003 is giving me problems - the hand rest is always where the sweetest tone is for my pick (no debates on finger playing here please Image!!) - the mute screws are in the way, and the bridge adjustment screws stick up so high they have eaten holes in the palm of my hand.

So the plan was to get rid of them all - mute screws, bridge adjusters and hand rest - have to say the bass looks a little empty but plays and sounds as magnificently as ever. Hate to say it but nothing sounds like a Rick, but nothing is as physically demanding and unforgiving to play sometimes!

Is it my imagination or does the bass sound different with the hand rest off? - I read somewhere that it was designed to help sustain? - or am I just hallucinating? Image

Do these problems occur for anybody else?
If its good enough for Lemmy and Chris Squire and Duncan Sanderson, then it's good enough for me.
User avatar
s4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3514
Joined: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:00 am
Contact:

Post by s4001 »

Hand rest doesn't change anything, but your pickup height may be different.
When I play pick style, I actually rest my palm on the mute screw.
"If you think you can or if you think you cannot - either way you are right." Henry Ford.
User avatar
jps
RRF Consultant
Posts: 37497
Joined: Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:00 am

Post by jps »

So the plan was to get rid of them all - ....., bridge adjusters and ......


Isn't your action different now with no way to adjust the height of your bridge?
cornishmusic
New member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:16 am
Contact:

Post by cornishmusic »

The adjusters were at the max anyway - so no difference in terms of action (just as well eh?)
If its good enough for Lemmy and Chris Squire and Duncan Sanderson, then it's good enough for me.
User avatar
bassduke49
Senior Member
Posts: 6580
Joined: Wed May 14, 2003 5:00 am

Post by bassduke49 »

You might want to consider installing the Hipshot bridge/tailpiece. It's not for everyone, but it might make your bass more comfortable. Here's mine, along with the Pickguardian treble pickup surround on my '04 Montezuma Brown 4003. Note: there is no mute, mute housing ("teeth"), or screws, and no pointy bridge-level Allen screws to get in the way.

Image
Author: "The Rickenbacker Electric Bass - 50 Years As Rock's Bottom"
cornishmusic
New member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:16 am
Contact:

Post by cornishmusic »

Looks good Paul - lots of food for thought...

thanks for your help - great looking bass!
If its good enough for Lemmy and Chris Squire and Duncan Sanderson, then it's good enough for me.
User avatar
wints
Veteran RRF member
Posts: 6481
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 11:21 am

Post by wints »

Time to get the Fender out...
kcole4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:07 pm

Post by kcole4001 »

Or, you could replace the bridge height screws with small socket head screws. Much easier on the hands!
Plus five minus five!
User avatar
gearhed289
Intermediate Member
Posts: 651
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:51 am
Contact:

Post by gearhed289 »

Hand rest off, Hipshot bridge on. You will be very happy.
'89 4003S, '92 4001CS, '93 4003S/8
www.nomadichorizonband.com
User avatar
incubus2432
Senior Member
Posts: 4174
Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:26 am

Post by incubus2432 »

All of the issues you mentioned (and a few more) are the reasons why I abandoned the 4001/4003 series in favor of 4004s. So you aren't alone with your issues.
jwr2

Post by jwr2 »

Quote: "So the plan was to get rid of them all - mute screws, bridge adjusters and hand rest - have to say the bass looks a little empty but plays and sounds as magnificently as ever. Hate to say it but nothing sounds like a Rick, but nothing is as physically demanding and unforgiving to play sometimes!

Is it my imagination or does the bass sound different with the hand rest off? - I read somewhere that it was designed to help sustain? - or am I just hallucinating?"

When you removed the cover you had to re-adjust the treble pickup height ... the height of the pickup and the height of the action on the fretboard has a big impact on the sound ...

Also I like to remove the mute and the mute superstructure so I can palm mute ...

The reasons for the pickup cover are ... 1 to make it look like the horseshoe pickup, 2 to partially shield the pickup for 60 cycle hum ... it will have no impact on sustain ... if your sustain has decreased then check to see if the bridge is seated correctly and try new strings ...

the hipshot bridge will increase sustain ... raising the pickup will give the Ric more growl ... remember keep it low enough so the strings don't hit the pole pieces ...

And the 4004 is also an excellent option
cornishmusic
New member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:16 am
Contact:

Post by cornishmusic »

Thanks Jeff - that's really useful.

Excuse my ignorance - what's 60 cycle hum?.

Is a hipshot set up expensive? - (I'm in the UK)
If its good enough for Lemmy and Chris Squire and Duncan Sanderson, then it's good enough for me.
User avatar
thx1955
Veteran RRF member
Posts: 2824
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:00 am
Contact:

Post by thx1955 »

Tim,
In the UK it'd be 50 cycle hum, it's the low hum you sometimes get out of electronic gear, or if you've a dodgy earth connection.
"It's Red Jim, but not as we know it...."
Post Reply

Return to “Rickenbacker Basses: by Joey Vasco & Tony Cabibe”