Over Under Sideways Down

sir_andrew_of_left_coast · Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:34 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HRKrFoNSe0

Wireless set-ups back in the 60s? Who knew?

;-P

drumbob · Post by **drumbob** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:01 pm

I believe that was called "lip synching."

Of course, I'm sure you knew that already!

lennon211 · Post by **lennon211** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:41 pm

A cool clip of a great band. I was into the Yardbirds before I hit the Stones. That was the song that did it too. Every now and then when I have my Vox Tonebender handy, I bump the gain way up on my AC-30, max out the reverb and run through this one, The Train Kept A Rollin, Heartful of Soul and some others of that ilk. All on a Fender Esquire of course.

sir_andrew_of_left_coast · Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:16 pm

Yeah, I knew that, Bob... hence the "

"

Say Matthew... Do you know much about your ancestry. I see you are in KY. Has your family been there for a while? I have an great-great-great grandfather who married a Bowling gal in 1821. Heck... we might be kin!

lyle_from_minneapolis · Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:07 pm

Love the Yardbirds.

Here's that one from "Blow Up" where Beck smashes a guitar playing "Train Kept a Rollin":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJGEn4FDys

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:13 pm

I've always loved that band, a few of my favorites are: I'm not Talking, I'm a Man, Over under sideways Down, Happenings Ten Years Time Ago, New York City Blues, Ain't Got you, Little Games, many others.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_kXDjCebpw

Happenings Ten Years Time Ago,
Chris Dreja on bass and Jimmy Page on guitar, they sound great and are definitely live.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:34 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXhRt6uGk2k

Little Games, studio version with cool video,
Jimmy Page era which I really liked.

mgauction · Post by **mgauction** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:50 am

OUSD - a great song with innovative guitar playing again by Beck! I also loved the flipside "Jeff's Boogie" based on Chuck Berry's "Guitar Boogie."

lennon211 · Post by **lennon211** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:20 am

The entire album of Roger the Engineer, or Over Under Sideways Down, depending on which country you're in is a good album through. The period for them was kind of turbulent as they were in the process of seeing Paul Samwell-Smith step out as bass player and producer for them. That's actually Beck playing the bass line on Over Under. He's said that he based it on a take off on "Rock Around the Clock" or some other Bill Haley song; I'll double check that. Keith Relf, the vocalist, was also trying his hand at some solo cuts backed by the Yardbirds. They really hit a creative period around the time that they were cutting the Having a Rave-Up album, also a good one, and then following up with Over Under. The Yardbirds almost start to lose my interest when Jimmy Page comes on the scene, as they seem to lose focus on whether or not to extend the sound of the Jeff Beck phase or try something new. They had some great cuts with Page, but it's right after they cut "For Your Love" that I really start to enjoy their stuff. I also like the Clapton period but that's almost like a different band since they were still in the blues-purist phase.

And Andrew, to answer your question, I know little about my ancestry, to my regret. I know that there has been a long history of them in Kentucky, but that's about all I know at this point.

sir_andrew_of_left_coast · Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:41 am

It seems the spelling has its variations... Bowling, Bolling, etc... but here's some links if you're interested, Matthew. It seems "Jesse Bowling" was the 1st to make his way to Kentucky.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kyborn/bowling.html

http://www.angelfire.com/oh4/tangledwoods/page22.html

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kyborn/ceme64.html

http://www.ancientfaces.com/research/photo/369090

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:38 pm

The bass line to Over Under Sideways Down is a generic blues bass line, it was used in Rock around the Clock and a thousand others and is likely the source for Beck as that was such an epochal tune and probably one of the first rock n roll tunes to use it. I was surprised to hear that in the Yardbirds as it is so bland and now I know why, Samwell-Smith was a great bassplayer and usually played very inventive lines.

lennon211 · Post by **lennon211** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:06 pm

Samwell-Smith was inventive when he was playing, as well as writing the bass lines for other studio players. He would use studio players when too busy producing, as he did on "Heartfull of Soul".

Andrew, thanks for the geneaology info. I will check it out.

lyle_from_minneapolis · Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:35 pm

I love that stupid boogiewoogie bassline in this song. The weird innovations of everything else juxtaposed with the bass makes it all the more bizarre. The 60's, at its best, took some everyday standard something-or-other...and bent it out of all recognition. Very fun. Good call, Bob, I never really thought about that one before.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:42 pm

You know the part in How Many More Times (ZEP first album) where JPJ builds up to a high E and then comes down again? Samwell-Smith was doing that way before him and was the first person I ever heard do that (was part of their rave ups). Although McCartney has to be credited with inventing all that high boomy stuff of course.