Matthew did a great job on the lead part on "Can't Buy Me Love". Keep on rockin'.
Janglebox vs. Ric-O-Sound
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Welcome to the forum Tom and Matthew. Your posts are both interesting and well composed. No pun intended.
Matthew did a great job on the lead part on "Can't Buy Me Love". Keep on rockin'.
Matthew did a great job on the lead part on "Can't Buy Me Love". Keep on rockin'.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
Hello Tom and Matthew. Welcome to the forum. Matthew -- super job on the solo.
FYI -- There are a few of us in the St. Louis, Central Missouri, Central Illinois areas trying to get together to talk about and share our Ricks. If you have any interest please let me know.
At the minimum keep me posted on Matthew's performances. Maybe I'll wander over from St. Louis sometime and catch a show.
FYI -- There are a few of us in the St. Louis, Central Missouri, Central Illinois areas trying to get together to talk about and share our Ricks. If you have any interest please let me know.
At the minimum keep me posted on Matthew's performances. Maybe I'll wander over from St. Louis sometime and catch a show.
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rickosound
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Wow! In the words of the Three Stooges, we're enchanted, enraptured, and embalmed!
We should have explained that we bought our Apple in February and we are still trying to figure it out. One of the first things we did, five months ago, was hook up the Ric-O-Sound and see what the lick to What You're Doing would sound like. Here's a snipit of that experiment, which we did on a soundcheck basis, but it gives you an idea of what the Ric-O-Sound will do straight through the board. We think it's jangly.
We're trying to write a song that has to do with rain, and here's also a soundbite of that, again with the Ric-O-Sound, but this time with compressor through the Apple, whatever that means. We think it's jangly, too.
To get these to fly, we have to send the sounbites seperately. We've just spent 45 minutes on the phone with the Apple tech support, to find out that they're "too big" to send together.
To return to the original topic, we're submitting these just for the sound value, not for the musicianship. We love our Janglebox, and we're trying to find a way to use it over the Ric-O-Sound to create the jangliest song ever, without having to buy another Janglebox. In a Ric sort of way, we feel like mad scientists.
One last thought, if every home in the world could have a Ric, the evening news would be something to look forward to. (But the Rics are all on order!)
We should have explained that we bought our Apple in February and we are still trying to figure it out. One of the first things we did, five months ago, was hook up the Ric-O-Sound and see what the lick to What You're Doing would sound like. Here's a snipit of that experiment, which we did on a soundcheck basis, but it gives you an idea of what the Ric-O-Sound will do straight through the board. We think it's jangly.
We're trying to write a song that has to do with rain, and here's also a soundbite of that, again with the Ric-O-Sound, but this time with compressor through the Apple, whatever that means. We think it's jangly, too.
To get these to fly, we have to send the sounbites seperately. We've just spent 45 minutes on the phone with the Apple tech support, to find out that they're "too big" to send together.
To return to the original topic, we're submitting these just for the sound value, not for the musicianship. We love our Janglebox, and we're trying to find a way to use it over the Ric-O-Sound to create the jangliest song ever, without having to buy another Janglebox. In a Ric sort of way, we feel like mad scientists.
One last thought, if every home in the world could have a Ric, the evening news would be something to look forward to. (But the Rics are all on order!)
"Eat at Joe's!"
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Don Miller
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Im slighty puzzled. The Rickosound unit is a stereo splitter..so you can run the signal to two amps..or an amp and a DI...the jangle box a compressor...which affects the attack sustain and decay of the signal...which translate into "jangle" ...I never noticed what Id consider an increase in "jangle" when I used my Rickosound...altho I suppose you could use it to add some chorused effect between the two output signals...but that really wouldnt be what one would call "jangle", is it?...sounds like comparing a rickosound and janglebox is comparing bananas and shoes....or am I all wet???
Your sons playing is most impressive
Your sons playing is most impressive
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rickosound
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Great reply! As we've watched this forum, we were impressed with the fact that an observation about a particular sound, for example, might be addressed with how it might be then technically achieved. Bananas and shoes indeed.
The two units are comparable in the sense that they both create a sound that is intended to, or capable of, creating a certain "jangle."
In the studio, at least, they are absolutely first cousins and a home musician might well debate which device to use on a given song or situation. We know, because we've had that conversation. Their respective "live" effect, which you may be addressing, is not comparable, we'll admit.
As we've watched this board over the past months, we've been left with the impression that many members do not have one or both of these units, but are curious (from a purchasing standpoint) how one might best fit individual needs. We're lucky to have both, and our posting was just intended to share our thoughts on how we intend to use both, in case that's informative for others.
In the end, the proof is in the sound. We plan to visit the Apple store this weekend to see if our soundbites (mentioned earlier) can be posted here, so we'll supplement later, hopefully. Then you can see if you hear a jangle.
The two units are comparable in the sense that they both create a sound that is intended to, or capable of, creating a certain "jangle."
In the studio, at least, they are absolutely first cousins and a home musician might well debate which device to use on a given song or situation. We know, because we've had that conversation. Their respective "live" effect, which you may be addressing, is not comparable, we'll admit.
As we've watched this board over the past months, we've been left with the impression that many members do not have one or both of these units, but are curious (from a purchasing standpoint) how one might best fit individual needs. We're lucky to have both, and our posting was just intended to share our thoughts on how we intend to use both, in case that's informative for others.
In the end, the proof is in the sound. We plan to visit the Apple store this weekend to see if our soundbites (mentioned earlier) can be posted here, so we'll supplement later, hopefully. Then you can see if you hear a jangle.
"Eat at Joe's!"
Tom: Posting a link to an mp3 is likely to work best. Alternatively, send me the mp3s and I'll see what I can do.
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Don Miller
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Sometimes when one refers to guitar terms on these internet forums...like jangle, Twang, grind, etc.....its not always easy to tell exactly what they mean..and what one person perceives as a particular quality is different than anothers....
The rickosound...unless they changed them in the past ten years..is a splitter...a "Y" cable..stereo input to two mono outputs
A Ricksound box should have no more effect on tone or attack or sustain or articulation or whatever than the cord to your amp..or your computer.(unless its a coil cord and then you get that cool 60s vibe going)...because thats all it is..it just takes part of the output and sends it one way, and the rest the other way.
Unless youre doing something in the processing..a little delay between the two signals for instance...what your getting isnt the rickosound. You maybe be getting that "middle" blend of treble and bass that tends to sound like "jangle" (think of the middle position on a tele with the tone up)..
The janglebox, on the other hand, actually alters the signal going thru it...and in doing so imparts that mix of attack, sustain and individual articulation that Id consider as "jangle."
Im interested in hearing your mp3s..,
The rickosound...unless they changed them in the past ten years..is a splitter...a "Y" cable..stereo input to two mono outputs
A Ricksound box should have no more effect on tone or attack or sustain or articulation or whatever than the cord to your amp..or your computer.(unless its a coil cord and then you get that cool 60s vibe going)...because thats all it is..it just takes part of the output and sends it one way, and the rest the other way.
Unless youre doing something in the processing..a little delay between the two signals for instance...what your getting isnt the rickosound. You maybe be getting that "middle" blend of treble and bass that tends to sound like "jangle" (think of the middle position on a tele with the tone up)..
The janglebox, on the other hand, actually alters the signal going thru it...and in doing so imparts that mix of attack, sustain and individual articulation that Id consider as "jangle."
Im interested in hearing your mp3s..,
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rickosound
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Don and J., we just played the 360/12 through the board with a single cable and then the rickosound, same lick. There is a noticeable difference. We'll leave it to others more knowledgeable than we are to explain why.
Peter, thank you for your kind offer, but we don't know how to send mp3's, either. We purchased the Apple lesson plan, but we can't get in until Wednesday. We will try and revive this post after that.
Peter, thank you for your kind offer, but we don't know how to send mp3's, either. We purchased the Apple lesson plan, but we can't get in until Wednesday. We will try and revive this post after that.
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Don Miller
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I should do my homework before flapping my jaw too much...you are correct...the pickups are split..bridge one way, neck...or neck mid on a 3 pup the other...not because of the rickosound box but because of the way the rickosound jack on the guitar is wired.....and yeah I think that would sound different than a single output...depending on what you did with the signals after they left the guitar...you can do the same thing with a stereo to two mono outputs Y cable from Radio Shack.
A guitar tech once told me that the main reason Rick-O-Sound sounds different than mono (aside from amp settings, etc.) is because when both pickups are on in mono, there's a certain "spank" or "quack" to the tone that emphasises certain frequencies (phase cancellation or some such thing...an extreme example of that being a strat with both the bridge and middle pickups on together).. something that doesn't happen when the pickups are routed thru seperate amps...the pickups don't "interact" in the same way when routed seperately, so he said. I've noticed on some guitars the output lessens slightly in the dual pickup mode so maybe that has something to do with the interaction.