The dullest question ever asked on the Forum :-)

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:04 am

I kinda like the reverse Klusons. They really look cool on a C64/C64S.

I'm not that big a fan of the late 70's black plastic bushing though.

badeggs · Post by **badeggs** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:18 am

Which way is "reverse?" Trying to picture it but I must plead ignorance. I never really thought about which direction they turn in!

clarky · Post by **clarky** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:27 am

Thanks for advice gentlemen - hardware store sounds my cheapest option.

I do enjoy this forum. I asked possibly the most boring question ever about a Rick, and a lively debate ensues!

Incidentally, it has stopped raining in London, in case you were interested .. but its still August. Kris, I obviously cannot say if this is coded espionage speak as I would have to eat my computer.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:53 am

With reverse tuners, you turn the key clockwise to tighten the strings.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:04 am

you see Mark ... no question here is dull ...

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:16 am

I like the old reverse tuners, but then that's because a '70's Rick was my first good bass.
They don't polish up well, though.
I also like wavy Grovers, which tighten in the standard direction.

woodyng · Post by **woodyng** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:31 am

ditto on liking the nickel reverse tuners-i got 'em on my 74 4000,and also my 67 epiphone embassy,and seldom ever have to touch either one of them-they're tight!

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:33 am

What I don't get is...the reverse tuners tighten the string when you turn them clockwise...just like when you tighten a screw or bolt.

How did the acceptable norm get to be turning the tuner counter-clockwise to tighten the string?

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:19 am

Must have been a Fender thing.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:24 am

I don't know but it takes me a while sometimes if I've been playing one style exclusively, like playing a 4001 for a few months then go to a later 4003. Fenders had reverse tuners during some part of the 60's also. I think they're easier to turn than standard tuners. Hurt your fingers less also.

thisismusicinc · Post by **thisismusicinc** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:52 pm

I am considering swapping the grovers on my "new" '73 4001. I would love to keep the originals, but they are falling apart when the string tension doesn't hold them in place. Do anyone know if new rickenbacker tuners will fit in the existing holes?

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:43 am

Don't do it!!! You'll seriously effect the value for one thing beside making it look strange., those headstock are small and the bigger keys look ungainly on them.

You can fix them, look up re-swage in the archives. Also you can find them on ebay here and there. All you have to do is bash the backs on so they stay on. Hammer? The holes are different sized and you will ruin the headstock if you ever do get more Grovers.

thisismusicinc · Post by **thisismusicinc** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:30 am

I won't do any drilling on my black beauty, don't worry. I was hoping for a direct replacement, but I'll check out the archives, and see what I can do myself. If you can fix it, it ain't broken!

Thanks!

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:37 am

I had a small headstock 73 that had the bigger Ric tuners it looked and worked fine ...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:20 pm

Were they stock?