Major issue with the 4004cii

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:04 am

Ahhh,,,,the CII "problem".

It almost made me crazy. Then I realized one day that you cant make a 4004 sound like a 4003.

Jeff Rath now has mine.

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:21 am

Charly, you should have tried my Cii at the confluence. Set up with much lower action than yours and round wounds. I love the tone it has.

Scott, I'm quite envious of Jeff Rath having that trans red Cii that used to be yours.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:24 am

the 4004 has a different voice that is good in its own way ...

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:27 am

I want to convert a trans red 4004 4-2-5 ... but I am reluctant to convert the one I have because it is the one used in the promo literature and web site ...

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:34 am

Jeff, my advise would be to not 4-2-5 THAT bass. But it is yours, you do what you want with it.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:43 am

Ok, here's an update I went to both GC;s today, and scored a B2RE demo for 199! I almost bought the Squier 70s vintage jazz for 249!

I am getting the SX jazz delivered tomorrow, so no sense in having two!! I will play around with pups with that baby. Who knows, I may sell the 4004. I did buy some Dr high beams for 8 bucks and will put those on today. As of now, I'm looking to maybe sell the SVT. I will set the B2RE up and A/B them until I decide. I used to have a B2RE so I think it may win out! Without a drummer,. I may need that instant attack from SS. I have enough variables now to at least test. And I should pt the VTVT mod in. Then I can adjust both pups independently,

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:44 am

Scott, I'm looking more for the tweener sound than full on 4003.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:20 pm

Ya I am thinking that I can sell it and buy another 4004cii trans red to 425 and make a few bucks in the process ...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:24 pm

Charlie, if you sell the SVT-CL look into a real one, there is a world of difference except for the weight of course. Don't get suckered into the amp of the month club.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:34 am

It looks like I will be selling/trading my 95 SVT classic with new JJ's. The only thing I would trade it for is a Geddy Lee Jazz, or a natural finshed Fender in PJ config. The B2re and the rounds will do it for now.

relayer4u · Post by **relayer4u** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:54 pm

Scott's crazy flame glo is the best CII I've ever seen. Timing and opportunity kept me from landing that one.

I'm not unhappy with what I ended up with, just wish I had more cash to get em all!

And I'm still in a funk about driving past Santa Ana when we were already in So Cal...

Uggh.

alan · Post by **alan** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:30 am

Charly, I'm looking for an SVT to upgrade from my V4BH. And, I have a Geddy Lee Jazz bass that I could part with. Email me if you think we could work something out.

aceonbass · Post by **aceonbass** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:02 pm

Charly, other than the fact that my 4004CiiMG was fretless, it was a very similar bass to your 4004 with only one difference..it had concentric tone/volume controls for each pickup. My progressive bandmates found it to have a VERY bright sound, but my Ampeg Portabass cabs do have a horn in each one. I forget the tone settings, but I can say this about every Ampeg I've ever owned...they are bass heavy in the tone. I start flat and add treble and high first, otherwise I just can't get enough high end out of them. The unbuttoned high gains I have in the 4004CiiV63TR are particularly bright as I had it wired with 500K pots all around. You can still use your gold covers on unbuttoned high gains(you need to remove the button poles to keep the strings from hitting them)and they have more power than the more expensive toaster tops. You should come over some time Charly and do a comparo with my three very different 4004's.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:42 am

I will put the pots in on Saturday. I always have the EBO or the MM clone to play if something untoward happens. Once that is in, I would def like to come do a "taste" test.

I will be getting a P/J clone sometime soon and that will be my primary backup, unless I like it better than the 4004!

ajish4 · Post by **ajish4** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:09 am

"I will be getting a P/J clone sometime soon and that will be my primary backup, unless I like it better than the 4004!"

Charly,

I've been watching this thread with a lot of interest. You kind of freaked me out about my 4004Cii that I have on order. I look forward to your "taste test" results

As far as a P/J clone for a backup, if I MAY suggest....and I know everyone is going to laugh at me BUT, check this out.....not mine, and I WAS going to buy it to have a backup for my backup but someone beat me to it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/WASHBURN-LYON-BASS-GUITAR-LB40-PROWLER-SERIES_W0QQitemZ260155193057QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I paid $79.00 for mine delivered! I have to tell you, it's a great little bass. I had a set of Lindy Fralin pickups installed (the originals were just as good if not better than a Fender MIM bass but I wanted that VINTAGE Fender SOUND) and this thing is AMAZING. I THINK it was Bob Scott that suggested the Lindy's. They really have the "vintage" Fender tone down pat.

If you like a THIN neck, both in width as well as depth, a light body and 24 frets, you can't beat it. I beat the heck out of mine and it is an animal. It needed a REAL setup, I had to have the nut cut and the saddles as well. It's been kicked, knocked off of the stand, had the sliding van door close on it, and it keeps on ticking!

Yeah, I know it's a cheap China knockoff, (and my ONLY non-USA built guitar) but for those gigs where you don't want to have to keep an eye out for it, or if you HAVE to leave it in the trunk of the car for a short time, you might want to check it out.

MOST of them sell for under $100.00. The Lindy's are the most expensive part of the guitar. Add that to the cost of a setup, and for about $300.00 you have a sweet axe. If you can do the setup yourself, knock off another $60.00 and you're good to go!

Just a suggestion!

Ducks and runs......