The joys and pains of auditioning drummers

Off Topic discussion forum

Moderators: ajish4, cjj

phlemmy

The joys and pains of auditioning drummers

Post by phlemmy »

i posted this on another forum but wanted to share it here...

So we fired our drummer a week or so ago because he just couldn’t keep a straight beat at a steady pace to save his life. Saturday we had 2 guys come in to try out.

Drummer number one: long hair, 25ish, Dream Theater shirt, nice Pearl kit (with roto toms! haha) and lots of too many cymbals and noise makers. So he shows up 30 minutes late and takes another 45 to get set up. Then he plugs his iPod into his headphones and starts warming up. I don’t know what he was playing to but it must’ve been ****** because whatever he was playing was ****** drumwise. Image Doug and I literally stood there with our gitfiddles hanging off of our shoulders for 10 minutes before I finally said, “WTF dude, we got another dude coming by in a little bit and we need to get this audition started.” “Oh, sorry. Cool.” We start playing the easiest simplest song we have and the guy could not play a straight beat. He kept trying to add Portnoy licks all over the place and even then he couldn’t do it in 4/4 time. We got through the 3 songs that guy has had since December 06(!) and Doug said, “Thanks, pack your stuff we got another guy coming shortly.” The kid said, “I’ll be waiting for the callback.” HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. He reminded me of another guy we auditioned a few months ago who also came with nice gear and no talent.

Drummer number two: guy shows up sporting a fauxhawk hairdo and earrings in each ear. He had hit me up on Myspace when I posted a classified ad looking for a drummer. Doug got in touch with him and scheduled the audition. Guy shows up on time, had his drums in nice soft-cases and pulled out a nice DW 5pc kit with 2 crashes, ride and hi-hat. Single bass drum pedal. I asked if he needed to warm up and he said let’s just play. We stared the first song and HALLELUJAH he was spot on, hit hat tapping during the fills and while he was on the ride cymbal (I love that...I play drums similarly as well). He played a little fast, but it was consistent. All 3 songs were the best we had ever had them played with any drummer. So after the songs were done, we sat and had a little Q&A then offered him the gig. He accepted. He’s a very nice guy, 35, married, got a kid and a decent job. Very laid back. HUGE Kings X fan but I won’t hold it against him.

So…finally…again…we have a drummer.
User avatar
freshmattyp
Member
Posts: 238
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:51 am
Contact:

Post by freshmattyp »

It's rare to find one who keeps good time and is normal. Most of them are either human metronomes who are flat out crazy, or great people who can't keep time.
User avatar
robbo63
Member
Posts: 356
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:43 am

Post by robbo63 »

The best drummer I worked with was really straight-laced, nice but a little uptight, a really good drummer, but he talked non-stop! Ok, he stopped when he was drumming, but any other time the mouth was running. You'd think the drumming would get that out of his system.

Speaking of drummers, I remember when the City Paper ran a "Spot the drummer" contest with photos of about 7 not-well-known bands (no photos with equipment). I was correct on most!
jwr2

Post by jwr2 »

I hate it when drummer plays too loud ... I have worked with several good drummers through the years ... one I played with a few years ago could drop a drum stick and take his time to get a new one and he would never miss a single beat or fill ...
kcole4001
Senior Member
Posts: 3368
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:07 pm

Post by kcole4001 »

Auditions are always a little awkward for everyone at the best of times!
A really good band member that is easy to get along with on any instrument is a real gem, & just as hard to find!

I've been lucky to have worked with two really good drummers for quite a long time each.

The first, my brother in law, is a great drummer & a great guy. Super easy to get along with, hardly any ego, great skills & talent, very dynamic playing, but a hard hitter at times, but not unreasonable.

The second, in my current band, is humble, loves funky stuff, is a very smooth drummer, very tasty fills & really excellent grasp of dynamics, has more of a light touch, and a good ear for sound over all.
A pleasure to play with at all times.
Plus five minus five!
rictified
Senior Member
Posts: 8040
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2003 5:00 am

Post by rictified »

How do you know when the stage is level?

When the drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth.
alanz
Intermediate Member
Posts: 1197
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:58 pm
Contact:

Post by alanz »

My last band had an ex-pro drummer who was also a great guy and man oh man was I spoiled. Smallish Gretsch kit that sounded great and the guy had FEEL and GROOVE.

My previous band had a guy with more money than talent; a big Pearl kit but I liked to say he gave us 15 out of 16 notes every time.

Congrats on finding a good one who is also apparently a responsible and cool guy.
Listen to that sustain!
User avatar
ozover50
RRF Consultant
Posts: 10492
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:07 pm
Contact:

Post by ozover50 »

It's not easy auditioning lead guitarists either!! We had a guy try out last Sunday who is a good player but doesn't know when to stop...... he absolutely murdered some of our quieter 'mood' stuff!! Hope we can get him to settle down a bit..........
"Never eat more than you can lift." - Mr. Moon
User avatar
charlyg
Senior Member
Posts: 3755
Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:01 am

Post by charlyg »

HEY, I thought us bass guys were in charge of GROOVE!
User avatar
lyle_from_minneapolis
Advanced Member
Posts: 2530
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:13 pm

Post by lyle_from_minneapolis »

EVERYONE is in charge of groove. In my experience, every position is difficult to fill, not just drums. Bands are like multiple marriages---and it's hard enough getting two people to mutually agree...

My favorite drummer was a skinny guy with burning eyes and not much money...his kit was spare as can be, and supplemented with a rack of pots and pans that he played like a symphony. Truly the most expressive and exciting drummer I ever played with.

But those auditions...we sure get a lot of excruciating memories from them, don't we?
Here is where I hide my music:
http://www.soundclick.com/MarkKaufman
User avatar
brammy
Senior Member
Posts: 5074
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:00 am

Post by brammy »

>>>Most of them are either human metronomes who are flat out crazy, or great people who can't keep time.

Boy aint THAT the truth. Drummers are a strange lot, thats for sure.
“The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.” ....H. L. Mencken
User avatar
jimk
RRF Consultant
Posts: 5355
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:27 am
Contact:

Post by jimk »

The drummer I'd like to have in my dream band happens to be my teacher. That guy can play anything.


JimK
jwr2

Post by jwr2 »

I love auditioning for bands ... quite often I have to let them down and say I won't join ...

I auditioned for a punk band a few years ago ... they played a lot of fast loud music ... towards the end of the audition I got bored and started played a lot of fast rifs in the general key of the song ... they thought I was a virtuoso when I was just screwing around ... another band I auditioned with after about 10 songs I got bored and started packing up my equipment in the middle of a song ...

any way a good drummer is a bass players best friend ... also a good sound man is your second best friend ...
User avatar
qwezirider
Intermediate Member
Posts: 850
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:43 pm
Contact:

Post by qwezirider »

10 songs seems a bit much for auditioning. If there's not something there by a few songs, I don't usually see it happening.
"Just be glad that it does not have a 60s horseshoe as well. I'm sure you can degauss one by farting near it!" - Eden.
User avatar
brammy
Senior Member
Posts: 5074
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:00 am

Post by brammy »

No offense meant Jeff Image .... maybe its just me but anyone who starts packing up in the middle of a song is a legitimate target for flying stomp boxes and guitar stands.
“The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.” ....H. L. Mencken
Post Reply

Return to “The Others: by CJ Johansson”