Clarence White on "Time Between?"

drumbob · Post by **drumbob** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:13 am

Is that Clarence White playing lead on "Time Between?"

Also, did McGuinn play any six string at all on Byrds' records, and if so, on what?

rick36 · Post by **rick36** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:00 am

Yes, it is - and it's also Clarence's lead guitar on "The Girl With No Name".
McGuinn played a lot of six string with the Byrds, one example being the "Have You Seen Her Face" riff and solo on the same LP.

budrocket · Post by **budrocket** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:14 am

That's PRE-stringbender Clarence, btw...

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drumbob · Post by **drumbob** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:42 pm

OK then, what type of six string did Roger play? I have seen pictures of him with a Gretsch Country Gentleman, and another of him, Hillman and Clarke in a Fender endorsement picture. I can't recall what kind of Fender Roger was holding, but it was probably something someone handed to him to pose with.

Don Miller · Post by **Don Miller** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:05 pm

Theres a clip on Youtube..fairly recent where Roger is playing a tele with the Beach Boys...and he's playing it...not just faking it....there are a few pictures of him on Raoul's site with the Gram Parsons era band playing a Country gent.....he played a tele in the Dr. Byrds era group..."Bad Night at the Whiskey was one song he played it on...he played a 6 string flat top (a Martin?)at the Grand old Opry...Rogers Country Gent had a treble booster like his Rick...

The fender ad was staged.

"Time Between" and "Girl With No Name" were Clarence's debut with the Byrds...theres some dead on tab for the YTY version of "Time Between" at the Clarence White Forum.....No stringbender required...but you need a tele or other guitar where you can do whole step behind the nut bends...

rick36 · Post by **rick36** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:38 pm

I think this is most likely the guitar that was used during those sessions and later modified to incorporate the string-bender.
Clarence, probably early '68, first onstage appearance with the Byrds, according to Jimmi Seiter.

Don Miller · Post by **Don Miller** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:47 pm

Clarence played both the sunburst shown in that photo, and a blond tele formally owned by Buck
Owens, now owned by Bob Warford..I think the 'burst had the bender in it when that photo was taken, and it appears the guitar was set up as an esquire...

Clarnece played the blond tele from early 67 until the bender was installed in the sunburst so he may have played the blond on YTY...he did play it on Sweetheart.

The blond was the second guitar to get a stringbender installed..Bob Warford, his dad and some UCLA engineering students, using Gene Parsons drawings put one in..Bob still plays the guitar..you can hear it on various recordings...Heart Like a Wheel (Willin and Dark End of the Street), Pancho and Lefty by Emmylou Harris...played by Albert Lee...and solo ablums by Rob Strandlund, Herb Pedersen, and others....

kranz · Post by **kranz** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:25 am

I saw the Byrds at the county fairgrounds in Wheaton Illinois sometime after Crosby's departure. McGuinn played a Gretsch Country Gent exclusively all evening through a Fender Twin Reverb. There was NO Rickenbacker in sight.