"Completely original"

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:54 pm

Nothing could be further from the truth!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-Rickenbacker-345-P-luthier-project-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ150162949109QQihZ005QQcategoryZ119094QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:31 pm

how so?

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:44 pm

The first production 345 didn't come out until 1958:

fatcat · Post by **fatcat** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:51 pm

Gretsch Pups and surrounds.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:00 pm

Lots to ponder. Look at the neck heel, for one...

bails · Post by **bails** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:07 pm

Is it normal for the skunk stripe to finish before the neck block?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:11 pm

Nope. And early Ricks had a squared-off heel.

The finish looks all wrong, and can be seen inside the sound hole, too.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:29 pm

Pickguard and tuners are definitley not original either.

bails · Post by **bails** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:30 pm

Looks like the strap pins, 'R' tail piece, nut and truss rod cover are genuine Rickenbacker... and that's about it!

The lack of skunk stripe at the neck/body join and finish in the sound hole worry me.

red_rob · Post by **red_rob** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:50 pm

What kind of an idiot would put any sort of non-Rickenbacker pickups in a Rickenbacker in the first place.

No no no there is no justifiable reason whatsoever no no no

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:12 pm

geez, the bid is up to $225. Thats already too much.

brian_l · Post by **brian_l** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:10 am

I also think it's rather suspicious that the seller never listed the serial number or took a close-up picture of the jack plate. I wonder if John Hall has seen this auction yet? Maybe he can chime in here and let us know what this thing REALLY is.

freshmattyp · Post by **freshmattyp** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:13 am

Robert - John Fogerty and Paul Weller, to name a couple off the top of my head.

I always wondered what filtertrons would sound like in a rick. Too bad that's not a rick.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:19 am

We've determined that it's not a Rick already?

ajish4 · Post by **ajish4** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:26 am

Here is one for your consideration.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270156340842&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017