Model 336-12 ?

Tommy_Booker · Post by **Tommy_Booker** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 12:44 pm

I have a 1967 semi-hollow body 12 string with a 6 to 12 string converter. I think it is a model 336-12 eventhough it has 345-12 written inside the control bay. It is good condition. What model is it and what is it worth?

Thanks,
Tommy

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 27, 2001 1:04 pm

Tommy: From your description you have a Model 366/12. There are lots of things written in the cavities of Rickenbacker bodies but often information may have little to do with the model of the instrument that is eventually crafted. Please ask the question about its value under the Rickenbacker Appraisals topic.

fatrat · Post by **fatrat** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 12:00 am

sounds like the 330 version to me Peter...
I think your right Tommy its a 336-12...
look on page 34 of the tony bacon-paul day Rickenbacker book...does it have that body or the rounded top like a 360??? thats what Peter is thinking of....
FATRAT

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 8:02 am

Tommy and Fatrat: My first thoughts went to the 366/12. It may ideed be a 336/12. As Frank has pointed out there is a photo of one on page 34 of Bacon and Day. Just to confirm Tommy, does the instrument of which you speak have dot fret markers?

TOMMY_II · Post by **TOMMY_II** » Sun Jan 28, 2001 3:20 pm

I forgot to tell him Dot neck...Peter,
I have a 335 2 PU guitar with 345-C written in the control cavity also Tommy, these are just codes used at the plant and dont mean much, I think they stuck the body/necks in piles and designated them as 330/335/340/345 so on and so on and if they needed to fill and the 330 pile was used up, they just grabed on out of the 345 stack thats all...nomally Tommy the 345 was a 330 with a middle Pickup/3 PU and a Accent vibrato...
they needed to fill an order for a 336 12 string comb style and just picked up a 345 body to make it out of...
Does that sound pretty good???

By the way, thats FRANKRAT..Peter....
funny, my real name is Tommy.....
this is getting confusing.....
I guess I should go by Tommy II now...
did you like Lon Moore ??? get it???

FATRATOMMY

Tommy_Booker · Post by **Tommy_Booker** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 4:13 pm

Thanks Pete and TommyRat! I have looked at pictures of both models and it is defintely a 336-12. It has dots on the frets but it has a curved plate mounted between the tailpiece and bridge that I have not seen in any pictures. I don't know what it is for. The treble pickup is bad, where can I get a replacement? By the way Pete, I also have a 450-12, I thought I saw one in your collection on a website. I also have a '60 or 61 425 6-string serial number AA 16, not in the best of condition.

Tommy

glen_l · Post by **glen_l** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 6:48 pm

It's interesting to hear that you have AA 16 Tommy. A nice early one from Rics changeover of serial numbers. What is the finish, or what was it originally I wonder.

terry · Post by **terry** » Wed Jan 31, 2001 8:50 pm

Tommy Booker wrote:
By the way Pete, I also have a 450-12, I thought I saw one in your collection on a website.

Peter McCormack's Garden and 450/12
Peter McCormack's 1966 Fireglo 450/12 (far left)
Peter McCormack's 1966 Fireglo 450/12 Headstock
The Peter McCormack Rickenbacker Collection

Peter, just a coupla questions about your 450/12:

 What function does the extra "fifth knob" perform?

 Where do you plug into the guitar now?

Reference: Ordinary 1966 Fireglo Rickenbacker 450/12

Tommy_Booker · Post by **Tommy_Booker** » Fri Feb 02, 2001 1:24 pm

Glen, my 425/6 is an orangish tan, but not Mapleglo. I think the color was called Autumnglo. Anyway it appears to be the original finish. My 450/12 looks exactly like Peter's. Tomcat, the fifth knob you may be referring to is the plug jack.

admin · Post by **admin** » Mon Feb 05, 2001 3:14 am

Tomcat and Tommy: The fifth knob is currently wired conventionally, however, this will probably change. I usually have it wide open and make adjustments through the amplifier. When the modifications were done to this instrument, the input jack was mounted on the side of the guitar in the same place as typically seen in most Rickenbackers.