Mark,
A few months ago on another NG I asked what could be done to help a muddy neck PU. You suggested changing the capacitor but I can't remember or find the value. Would you mind repeating?
Thanks! Jonesey
360 neck PU tone capacitor question
Moderator: jingle_jangle
Let me ask you some questions too;
is it a 24 fret neck?
do you have toasters or do you have high gains?
The answers are many but the capacitor thing is this...
Rick puts in a .047mfd cap on the tone pots.That has been stock for as long as I know .
This cap only does one thing and that it to shunt treble to ground.When it is on all the way (brightest) the cap is not doing anything.When you back it off ...you eventually get the mud tone.
The treble pickup in the older instruments had a .0047mfd cap between the volume pot and the switch.This shunted bass .It gave the illusion of a brighter bridge pickup and with the old flat wound strings ...a greater clarity.
With round wound strings the standard of most players ....this cap was removed and is out of the circuit.
It can be installed to brighten up the guitar however.
I said a while back that I prefer the sound of a .022mfd.It does not knock off as much treble when you turn 'off' the tone control.
There are lots of capacitors ,and you might want to get a hand full and see what thrills you.
They are inexpensive and this is a harmless experiment
is it a 24 fret neck?
do you have toasters or do you have high gains?
The answers are many but the capacitor thing is this...
Rick puts in a .047mfd cap on the tone pots.That has been stock for as long as I know .
This cap only does one thing and that it to shunt treble to ground.When it is on all the way (brightest) the cap is not doing anything.When you back it off ...you eventually get the mud tone.
The treble pickup in the older instruments had a .0047mfd cap between the volume pot and the switch.This shunted bass .It gave the illusion of a brighter bridge pickup and with the old flat wound strings ...a greater clarity.
With round wound strings the standard of most players ....this cap was removed and is out of the circuit.
It can be installed to brighten up the guitar however.
I said a while back that I prefer the sound of a .022mfd.It does not knock off as much treble when you turn 'off' the tone control.
There are lots of capacitors ,and you might want to get a hand full and see what thrills you.
They are inexpensive and this is a harmless experiment
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
Let me ask you some questions too;
is it a 24 fret neck?
do you have toasters or do you have high gains?
The answers are many but the capacitor thing is this...
Rick puts in a .047mfd cap on the tone pots.That has been stock for as long as I know .
This cap only does one thing and that it to shunt treble to ground.When it is on all the way (brightest) the cap is not doing anything.When you back it off ...you eventually get the mud tone.
The treble pickup in the older instruments had a .0047mfd cap between the volume pot and the switch.This shunted bass .It gave the illusion of a brighter bridge pickup and with the old flat wound strings ...a greater clarity.
With round wound strings the standard of most players ....this cap was removed and is out of the circuit.
It can be installed to brighten up the guitar however.
I said a while back that I prefer the sound of a .022mfd.It does not knock off as much treble when you turn 'off' the tone control.
There are lots of capacitors ,and you might want to get a hand full and see what thrills you.
They are inexpensive and this is a harmless experiment
is it a 24 fret neck?
do you have toasters or do you have high gains?
The answers are many but the capacitor thing is this...
Rick puts in a .047mfd cap on the tone pots.That has been stock for as long as I know .
This cap only does one thing and that it to shunt treble to ground.When it is on all the way (brightest) the cap is not doing anything.When you back it off ...you eventually get the mud tone.
The treble pickup in the older instruments had a .0047mfd cap between the volume pot and the switch.This shunted bass .It gave the illusion of a brighter bridge pickup and with the old flat wound strings ...a greater clarity.
With round wound strings the standard of most players ....this cap was removed and is out of the circuit.
It can be installed to brighten up the guitar however.
I said a while back that I prefer the sound of a .022mfd.It does not knock off as much treble when you turn 'off' the tone control.
There are lots of capacitors ,and you might want to get a hand full and see what thrills you.
They are inexpensive and this is a harmless experiment
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
-
Jonesey
well it does ...
the high gain pickups have less clarity and more output ....this means less treble.
The 24 fret neck has a simple trade off that has gone around for years.
In the early 1970's we thought it would be awsome to have the extra octave at our fingertips.
If you play a Fender or a Gibson without 24 frets ,and these are used as examples (they are not better or worse )chim the octave harmonics.
Youy will find that the neck pickup on both LesPaul's /SG/ES-335 etc and Strats etc are at what would be the 24th fret.
On a 24 fret neck the neck pickup is NOT in that naturally hot harmonic place.That gives you a slightly duller tone.
I first noticed this on Ibanez guitars in 1977 after I left the Rick plant/factory.
They were making 21,22 and 24 fret necks in the 1970's and some really nice guitars.Well on comparing this and having customers ask the samer question (all those years ago) I discovered that the reason was pickup placement ..not anything else.
This is why I like NON 24 fret necks.On a 12 string I don't need the high octave and on a 6 string I can bend the string .I'm not chording up there.
These are my opinions and do not reflect those of the R.I.C. necessarily .
the high gain pickups have less clarity and more output ....this means less treble.
The 24 fret neck has a simple trade off that has gone around for years.
In the early 1970's we thought it would be awsome to have the extra octave at our fingertips.
If you play a Fender or a Gibson without 24 frets ,and these are used as examples (they are not better or worse )chim the octave harmonics.
Youy will find that the neck pickup on both LesPaul's /SG/ES-335 etc and Strats etc are at what would be the 24th fret.
On a 24 fret neck the neck pickup is NOT in that naturally hot harmonic place.That gives you a slightly duller tone.
I first noticed this on Ibanez guitars in 1977 after I left the Rick plant/factory.
They were making 21,22 and 24 fret necks in the 1970's and some really nice guitars.Well on comparing this and having customers ask the samer question (all those years ago) I discovered that the reason was pickup placement ..not anything else.
This is why I like NON 24 fret necks.On a 12 string I don't need the high octave and on a 6 string I can bend the string .I'm not chording up there.
These are my opinions and do not reflect those of the R.I.C. necessarily .
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!