Shouldn't be allowed...

[heinpete]

Brad, Shine is NOT in Germany, but in Sweden. However the sticker on the back of the head stock reads " Made in Korea".
Does it's tailpiece have taillift still?

[deaconblues]

Company website...

http://www.saein.co.kr/2007/bass/rk2000nt.php

[aceonbass]

[quote="brammy"]Well, we've been through all this before. RIC's hyper-restrictive TRC policy has created this situation.

That's like blaming any crime on the laws that prevent them.

However RIC seems to have this weird attitude that their customers dont really own the guitars.... that it's sort of a permanent use-license or something like that.
What are you talking about? RIC has no problem with what I do to my RIC's.
If RIC wants to have a little legal hissy fit, then thats their problem. I really dont care.
You should because these TRC's are fakes made in Italy

[rickenmetal]

I've had even worse problems with Korean products. I bought a pedal labeled "Artec Analog Delay", a delay pedal made in China for a Korean company. I opened it up after I bought it, and guess what, a digital delay chip is inside!

[jingle_jangle]

Not at you, Ivan, but at the irony...

[just_bassics]

Well, we've been through all this before. RIC's hyper-restrictive TRC policy has created this situation.

To create fake TRCs and sell them is a clear copyright violation and should not be allowed.

However RIC seems to have this weird attitude that their customers dont really own the guitars.... that it's sort of a permanent use-license or something like that. When I buy a Rickenbacker guitar I buy the whole thing TRC included. If I feel like using for firewood I will. If I feel like taking taking the guitar apart and selling it off for parts then I'll do it .... TRC included. If RIC wants to have a little legal hissy fit, then thats their problem. I really dont care.

This guy's TRC sale is ok by me..... as long as it's not a fake.

I've never felt like anyone owns my guitars but me. They're not software programs. As for design trademarks, I don't own them on anything I've ever purchased. Rickenbacker is just better at enforcing their rights and more power to them for it!

[tennis_nick]

Well, we've been through all this before. RIC's hyper-restrictive TRC policy has created this situation.

To create fake TRCs and sell them is a clear copyright violation and should not be allowed.

However RIC seems to have this weird attitude that their customers dont really own the guitars.... that it's sort of a permanent use-license or something like that. When I buy a Rickenbacker guitar I buy the whole thing TRC included. If I feel like using for firewood I will. If I feel like taking taking the guitar apart and selling it off for parts then I'll do it .... TRC included. If RIC wants to have a little legal hissy fit, then thats their problem. I really dont care.

This guy's TRC sale is ok by me..... as long as it's not a fake.

As far as I can guess based on replies by Ric officials and such, the sale of your Truss Rod Cover is not bad. Using one to make a fake, IS bad. selling a fake one IS bad.

I'd say a good 90% of the ones you see are fake.

I saw a Beatles tribute band where a guy had a 325 Fakenbacker, but he printed out a Rickenbacker TRC and taped it over the headstock...

[admin]

Just in passing, both John Hall and Ben Hall have access to the RickResource Forum and have posted recently. I am hoping we might hear from them more often, as time permits, in 2008.

RIC has to do what they feel is necessary in the protection of their intellectual property. This is a headache for them and they would not go forward in this manner if it was unnecessary.

[rickenmetal]

Actually Gibson has also attempted to protect the design of the Explorer. They stopped ESP from producing their LTD Explorer copy. In other cases they simply bought the companies which make Explorer copies: Hamer and Kramer.

They also stopped the production of the Ibanez copies in the '70s.

However, here is the difference: while the Ibanez (and I suppose also Tokai) copies are supposed to be just as good as the Gibsons or better, the Rickenbacker copies are of much poorer quality than the originals. They do not have lacquered fingerboards (except on some '60s and '70s copies) and they do not have the double truss rods.

[paologregorio]

Actually Gibson has also attempted to protect the design of the Explorer. They stopped ESP from producing their LTD Explorer copy. In other cases they simply bought the companies which make Explorer copies: Hamer and Kramer.

They also stopped the production of the Ibanez copies in the '70s.

However, here is the difference: while the Ibanez (and I suppose also Tokai) copies are supposed to be just as good as the Gibsons or better, the Rickenbacker copies are of much poorer quality than the originals. They do not have lacquered fingerboards (except on some '60s and '70s copies) and they do not have the double truss rods.

Now if only Gibson could do something about all of those horrible late `70s/early 80s Hondo II Les Paul copies! I saw and heard so many of those awful things when I was a kid that I've suffered some sort of psychological damage and STILL can't bear the thought of buying a real Les Paul. The guitar does nothing for me. I don't even like the way they look thanks to Hondo!