Rose, Morris models

[wints]

Gerry's RM1999 bass is close to your one Eden...

Darren's is an early one from down under, and come from the same batch as the Gibb bass, the Squire HOYH RM1999, both of which are original UK imports, and Mark Walker's bass, originally found by Gerry in Perth.

Now, was that an original Oz bass, we wonder?

Gerry?

[wmthor]

Here's my '96 1997 Vintage Reissue

[jch]

Thanks Graham

$4-$5k ,that's about £2500 or there abouts ,pretty good i'd say

But if it was in a shop here in the UK, it would be £5000!!
Which isin't so good.

But even with the shipping and vat /customs ect..
its still not a bad price considering how rare they are.

[wints]

John,

I know of a very nice original 1998 that might be for sale for around 2500 GBP.

[krick]

Graham, based on the offer I had last year for the 360/12V64 with f hole, I am thinking the current value would be higher.

[jch]

Thanks Andrew, that's a great price for an original 1998!

but i've just bought a Gretsch White falcon ,so i'm broke!

Hopefully someone else here can get it though.

[kennyhowes]

My 1965 RM 1998 was the third Rickenbacker I acquired and my first vintage model. I purchased it about four years ago on Aussie eBay. It has the original music store decal on the rear of the headstock still and came complete with the export model case. These cases can be distinguished by the pressed-metal Rickenbacker name-plate.

I never knew that! Hmm.

[JakeK]

Would 4001V63's actually be considered reissues of the 1999? They sure look like 'em, and Wikipedia (don't shoot me yet!) say that they are replicas of the 1999.

What was up with the thumb rest on the 1999? Come to think of it, the only 4001S or 1999 I didn't see have one was McCartney's 4001S (it's been said here that this 4001S cannot be a 1999, as it didn't leave America)

[wints]

Jake,

The V's are a fairly close replica. The major difference are the horseshoes, which are an aesthetic on the reissue basses as opposed to the originals, and the lack of thumb rest, which you point out is on all original basses but not on the V's. The original tuners are nickel and have a slotted screw, where the V's have a Phillips.

The main difference from a playing perspective is that nearly all the RM basses, like most from the 60's, have very thin neck profiles, where the V's vary far more, similar to the regular basses that were in production at the time. My 98 had a rather thick neck, most unlike the majority of 60's basses.

Macca's 4001S was not imported, although the next serial number bass DA 24 was.

[JakeK]

What about the 4001C64? I know the lack of thumb rest and the reverse headstock are MAJOR differences, but what else?

[wints]

The C's are closer in sound and feel it would seem, with the vintage toaster at 7.4K and the horseshoes closer to the original specs, and the neck profile generally thinner.

The V's have very strong pick ups and are not like those 60's originals, although I really like them, especially a "shoeless" RI HS.

[JakeK]

http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_pos ... er_bp6.jpg

Notice the 360/12OS with f-hole. They say it's Harrison's but it's not; Harrison's had a slash soundhole, and not a f-hole. Could this possible be Townshend's old one? The TRC is damaged, and from the way Pete treated his guitars, this could be it!

[kennyhowes]

http://www.rickenbacker.com/catalog_pos ... er_bp6.jpg

Notice the 360/12OS with f-hole. They say it's Harrison's but it's not; Harrison's had a slash soundhole, and not a f-hole.

On behalf of Rickenbacker, umm, oops.

Could this possible be Townshend's old one? The TRC is damaged, and from the way Pete treated his guitars, this could be it!

Anything is possible, but the TRC looks closely trimmed, but not damaged. Some of the examples in both the Rittor book and the Tony Bacon book show sloppily made nameplates.

[leftybass]

Anything is possible, but the TRC looks closely trimmed, but not damaged. Some of the examples in both the Rittor book and the Tony Bacon book show sloppily made nameplates.

+1.

Most is not all of the early 12-string TRCs were hand-shaped and had to be, due to the way the slots were routed in the peghead.....early on they had no curve at all, or not enough curve, and the TRCs would not fit the headstocks properly.

Each one of the early 12-stringers has a unique TRC, almost like a fingerprint.

[jch]

That looks like the one in Richards book ,page 191

I too thought it might have been Pete's ,but his TRC is a little longer.