refinished bass, how much does it detract from value>?

[rokkitt]

hi,

I am new here and just bought a 1988 MG/BT.

see these threads for the story and some pics.

http://rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=380717


http://rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=380690

The binding is painted on, not plastic. I know, the paintjob is really really good, but it is paint


All the binding on any ric bass is a thin plastic that is routed into the bass, right?

so,

I found out that the bass is refinished, and the takes away from the value of course.


But the bass plays ok, so it is a good gigging bass.


so my question is, how much should I deduct from the price, if the bass needs to be refinished. Which it does need, I have found out.

Allen

[rokkitt]

ok, bad question from a newbie.....

any approximates?


like 200 or 600 or 800?


not to hold anyone to a number, but just a general guess?


al

[rickaddict]

Its really hard to say without close-up photos.

Is the bass good enough to play as-is?

Do you want to get it re-finished again?

Yes, the way RIC does it is to route the body wings and then glue a thin strip of plastic binding on the body wing.

If your "binding strip" is actually paint, then what happened to the route? Was it sanded over and made smooth? That would detract from the value.

The term "Re-finished" is too broad to estimate a value. If it was re-finished the RIC way by someone like Paul W or Dale F, then the value might not be affected at all, could be a little less or could even be more.

If a bass was "re-finished" by some DIY guy in his garage with a few spray cans and sanded with 60 grit sandpaper then it most definitely will lose value.

[rokkitt]

thanks jeff!


if you look to the othter links I have up, there are pics


and,

ONE QUESTION,

are ALL rics made with body binding? if that is true, this one does not have body binding, and that means the route is sanded away....

that
would
be
bad!


Thanks for the info!



al

[jakeox]

I have to say, it looks pretty good in the pictures. Someone would have had to have sanded away the ridge -- a significant amount off of each side, including the bottom where there wasn't any binding -- and then re-painted the fake binding. Or I suppose they could have filled in the part that used to have binding ... either way, I'd think it would look worse than it does if the binding had been removed.

I guess what I'm saying is ... how sure are you that that's paint, and not binding?

[rickaddict]

Not all Rick basses had binding. The S models like the one pictured below had a contoured body, dot neck inlays, and no neck binding. I'm a big fan of them. Yours was definitely not an S model because it has the triangular "shark fin" inlays. Are you sure your binding is paint? Could it be paint over the binding? Maybe black paint over white binding?

I've seen the photos of your bass. If the binding were completely removed, there would be an obvious channel routed around the body. There would be a gap under the jack plate under the side where the binding used to be.

[rikk]

To me it looks like the binding is intact.

[rokkitt]

thanks for that info


I will post pics in a sec

yes, it looks binding on the body

it just thru me off cuz the binding is sanded down in places, and looks rounded


yes thyere is binding (black ) on the body


two more THINGS


doe sht eback of the bass look right, as far as the contour


and is the binding on the fretboard right?

will post pics in a sec

thank

[rokkitt]

here are more pics

[rokkitt]

i think the binding is real, thanks for the info

the only other issue is that the body seems sanded,


and just wondered if this is too much sanding

I know, any sanding is bad,


but

lemme put up some pics, and see what u guys think about the amount that is sanded off the back of the bass


allen

thanks for everyones input!

[rokkitt]

To me it looks like the binding is intact.

yes binding is intact on the body.....just a little over sanding, which if I wanted to , can be cured by spedning the money and putting on new binding....

on the body,

would black binding and black JET GLO body make sense, and would it come outta the factory like that?

(might be a question for the restroation forum, I know...)

so the body looks good binding wise


what about the binding on the neck....

[qwezirider]

Definitely looks real from this angle, especially in the jack plate screw hole.

[rokkitt]

here is another shot of how the binding is sanded....I am ok with that for now....


JUST to summarize, as long as the foundation of the bass is solid, I will take on this project

but,
if the body is SANDED AWAY, too much....

then it is not for me


I will post pics of the body in a sec


thanks!


al

[phlemmy]

jetglo with black binding was pretty common in the 80s.

This is my 86:

[rokkitt]

bruce...I agree the idea to take off the input jack and looked there solved the issue on binding or no binding



and sean.......that bass....that bass.......>>


that

black

bass

is

awe

SOME!!!!

more pics to follow on the contours of the body....

should all edges be exaclty sharp 90 degree angles, or is there some contouring of the body on a ric?

al