Make your own Ric, well..... sort of.

[grazioso]

I'd love a old Ferrari but I can only afford a old Fiat!
emac.

In that case get a FIAT Dino.

or yugo

[jps]

I'd love a old Ferrari but I can only afford a old Fiat!
emac.

In that case get a FIAT Dino.

or yugo

What Yugo has a Ferrari engine in it?

[weemac]

A fiat dino is still $20,000 here in Australia
A decent Fiat 2300s is $15,000 to $20,000
A decent Fiat 124 coupe is $5,000
A 131s wagon is free.

[whojamfan]

With the price of fuel today, I think I would rather have the Yugo.

[captsandwich]

With the price of fuel today, I think I would rather have the Yugo.

What do you call the rear window defroster in a Yugo?

The hand warmer.

(Save on fuel by pushing it from place to place.)

[jps]

A fiat dino is still $20,000 here in Australia
A decent Fiat 2300s is $15,000 to $20,000
A decent Fiat 124 coupe is $5,000
A 131s wagon is free.

Free is good. Which would Griffin prefer?

[weemac]

I have the 131..
I would love to have a 2300s....

[whojamfan]

Greg, we had a saying here in the states when the Yugo came out "Geez, for 5 more bucks you could have got a Hyundai". They literally were 5 dollars apart in price.

I mean no offence to anyone, and have no practical experience with either automobile.

[jingle_jangle]

things like crockenbackers and those 4005 and one off pieces came out of need for something different that the RIC is simply not willing and/or able to do. if the person who plays it out is big enough name the corporation will look the other way. it is pointless to put some cheap do it yourself look_a_like kit next to f body or other high end rickenbacker inspired guitar. that is wrong match.

paul w has licence to make acoustics - that sounds like good way to do it here in us for high end instruments that there is no gigantic demand for.

what i don't get is : why everybody talks about china everytime this debate rises from the ashes again. there are other countries where decent guitars are being produced beside china (e.g. czech republic where i came from) where people do have enough integrity not to do extra production runs and production cost is somewhere between orient and usa. you can still find here and there very nice epiphones les pauls made for european market there in 1990's which i wouldn't hesitate to put against any us made gibson. the only reason this production ended was the fact that korean production was cheaper. the same factory went and produced bunch of high end dean guitars and same story, it went to korea or whatever. than they went making fender like parts for parts dealer, last news i got is that they are closed. the whole region took big hit there from this. typical corporate **** of penny saving. so taking dormant label like electro and make bunch of those es16 es17 and like 450/12 with electro label for normal money in place like that sounds like win win to me. it is part of eu, so you have your trademark and copyright laws enforced, quality of production is excellent, no eu import duties. why nobody thinks of that? beating again and again that empty straw of oriental crop in these debates seems rather pointless.

The reason that China keeps coming up is simply that every factory-built Rick counterfeit made today comes from Shenzen.

Rickenbackers will always be made in the USA. Unauthorized copies of Rickenbackers (whether they be onesies or mass-produced items) which are not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, open the door for an abandonment of trademark suit, which would go against a half-century of work establishing the trademark, not to mention the tradition that makes the brand what it is.

This topic comes up regularly, and the same old points keep getting trotted out; the same explanations and rebuttals get re-posted. And you're talking about beating "the empty straw of Oriental crop"?

[atomic_punk]

BAM! And that should be the end of that.

But it won't be the end of that, will it?

FAKES SUCK.

[gregga41]

Dare i mention the "Firewood" description again?? Lest i fear being shot down!