4001CS - terrible?!?

ken_james · Post by **ken_james** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:26 am

You haven't seen the ones I kept... ;>

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:13 pm

I did a session here in Lima with a 4001 with two year old Fender flats on it, and the engineer came in to see what kind of a bass I had that sounded so great (also loved the SVT head with B-15 cab) By the way he was about 22. Even had nipple rings, so he was not some geezer looking for that old F*****R sound

slacker · Post by **slacker** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 9:34 pm

You know, the first time I played a CS, I didn't care for it either. I think I had a preconceived notion of what one would sound like. I did get over it, however.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:22 pm

some guy once asked me if having a CS made me "sound" like CS!

So I told him some BS.

If only it was that easy...

prague · Post by **prague** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:14 am

So, what are they "supposed to" sound like? 4001? 4003? 1960's 4001?

motoryeshead · Post by **motoryeshead** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:45 pm

They just sound like v63s, I own both v63 and CS models, and I can't realistically pin down any difference between the two, like I can between my old 4001 deluxes. The CS is super-nice to have if you are a Yeshead though

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:17 am

I got the CS KNOWING I wouldn't even get Closer to the Edge.

Squire's tone is effects, amps, strings and mostly the man himself.

I love the look of the bass, but when someone asks me if it sounds like CS, I tell them YES.

Not anymore than a Yao Ming jersey will make me play any better!

Yo.

big_g · Post by **big_g** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:14 am

I've got to put my two cents in here too, much of what a player might experience when they try out a particular model of instrument that they have always wanted to try, but have never been able to, is due to personal perception. Meaning, it all depends on your background and experiences with music, you could develop expectations, both positive and negative, that will affect your perceptions of how that instrument should sound.

Step back and look at whom you listen to the most and who are your favorite players? What does their sound say to you, I grant that if you are used to that "V notched" sound, you might think that a Chris Squire signature might be too thin and edgy, with not enough bottom end.

Changing strings, adjusting the set up, using a different amp, etc., could help the experience too. But, you'll also have what I call, "The Internal Ear", giving you your impression straight you your emotional center. You still may not like what you hear. You will have to go in with your mind open and willing to take what you do hear and experiment with that sound within it's own space.

You might find that the experience is different from your first exposure then. If you hear something that whispers to you then, and you have the money, you could purchase and then adjust to your hearts content. You will be much happier with what you have then.

jeff_ulmer · Post by **jeff_ulmer** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:31 am

I agree with G.L.

Over the years I have come to appreciate what different instruments bring to the table, and often they don't speak to me the way I expect them to right away. Usually they require some patience to truly discover what they are capable of, and many times I've had to experiment with the gear and how I'm applying it to find its strengths.

Guitar/amp pairings are one great example of this. I have a few vintage amps that are very sensitive to what is played through them. Some guitars don't work at all, while others just jump right out at you. It takes a lot of time to find what works best, but if you have a quality instrument to begin with, there is something in there somewhere. Whether it is what you want or need is another story.