Ricky Redemption: Confessions of a Erstwhile 4001 Vandal

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Ricky Redemption: Confessions of a Erstwhile 4001 Vandal

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Once upon a time, long before the internet had made its way up to the great plains states, I was an ignorant college student. I found a 4001 in one of my favorite Sioux Falls pawn shops, and talked the guy down to $250. It was a '77 or '78, if I recall correctly, and other than the BadAss II hanging off the bottom, was all original in OHSC and played beautifully. Being an ignorant college student, however, I was really appalled by the finish. There was some buckle rash, and a few side chips, both of which I could have easily lived with, but the color; dear lord, the color. When I got it apart, I discovered that it had once been White, but after 9-10 years of weekly or (I'm guessing) nightly bar gigs, it was the color of a used Marlboro filter. Not quite yellow enough to be a nice banana or lemon, not white enough to be faux-cream, not amber enough to be...attractive. If you've ever seen a cue ball that's spent several years in a smoky bar, you'll know the color I'm talking about; it gives a whole new meaning to "tobacco burst". The Nicotineglo finish was ugly, so it had to come off. This was my rationale, and off I went to Ideal Hardware on 41st.

I spent much of the next week, including two days of skipping most of my classes, stripping all the finish off of the bass and replacing it with a finish I liked better. Luckily, I discovered that the black stripe around the face was not paint, moments before the chemical stripper I was using would have destroyed it all. I did end up sanding off some bubbled bits of binding down by the binding's end near the bottom strap button (my older self cringes here). Once I got the bass to bare wood, I stained it (cringe again) with a light coat of mahogany-colored stain, then sealed it with three or four coats of brushed-on poly. I thought it looked great at the time, black trim and binding against a glossy dark wood that still showed its nice grain, but it was my first real guitar project and I'm fairly certain the quality of work was pretty poor.

I played it for about six months, then got cash-strapped and was forced to sell it to some other kid for $400. He thought it was the greatest thing ever, but he was still in high school, so what did he know? :) I missed it terribly as soon as it was gone, and have always wondered what happened to it.

Anyway, if anyone reading this owns a bass matching the above description, I apologize for my youthful indiscretion. Hopefully you can refin it back to White, or Blue or Jetglo (pseudo-Shadow could be fun, right?) and still have a decent-looking Ricky to play. Sorry about the body binding on the bottom especially.

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Fast forward to around the turn of the century; I was working at a university in Indiana, doing some computer repair and consulting on the side, and a college student who needed a number of replacement PC parts and several hours of my time offered to pay me with a guitar instead of cash. He had this really cool bass he got from his brother, it needed some work, but it was "really, really cool". Really. He was broke and desperate for a working computer, so I took pity on him. He brings the thing over and it's a 4001. A mangled, frankensteined, maimed and butchered 4001, but definitely a 4001. My first reaction was a barely restrained urge to hunt this kid's brother down, grab him by the shoulders and shake him until his teeth rattled, all the while shouting "Why? Why? WHY?" Then I remembered my 19-year old self, proudly brushing the third coat of hardware-store poly on my project Rick in the utility closet of my dorm, and forgave the stupid kid. Mostly.

Ready? Take a deep breath, and head to the Register to check out the images I recently uploaded of my adopted victim, a 1973 Burgundy 4001 serial #MJ5278. Go ahead, I'll wait.

It's okay, I've shed a few tears myself. I don't think any less of you, really.

Now, it's possible that I've simply developed a soft spot in my heart (or head, whichever you prefer) for old things of high quality that have been ill-used, or it may be that I'm hoping for some atonement with the guitar gods for my previous sin. Either way, I've decided it's high time I brought this 4001 back to life, and so I've joined the forum in search of advice. I'll post my thoughts, plans, and (eventually) progress in this thread.

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Looks like it is headed in two directions at the same time; forward to a five-string, and backward to a 4000 (one pickup). That's yours, I take it?

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Very interesting story (you also write quite well)! I too was young and did some mods to my first bass, which was a Jazz copy. By the time I was 22 and got my 4001S I was all grown up and didn't change a thing - thank goodness.

Restoring it to a two pickup bass would be worthwhile, which would make for an even more fun project. :)

Oh yeah, and welcome to the forum! I'm not a restore/modify person, but there are others here who can help. If all goes well, the Ric Gods will bless you with a 12 string chime and other wonderful delights.
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Troy, congratulations on a superb first post on the Forum, and a warm welcome.

I am confident that you'll feel right at home here. I can guarantee you'll get all of the advice you need (and maybe even more!) from your colleagues here. :mrgreen:
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Welcome Troy, and thanks for sharing that great story!
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welcome,troy. and you were not alone,in the early 80's i had a 70's era mg 4001,that i decided needed to be blue,and i actually taped the sides of the bass,painted the front body/headstock with ........krylon spray can paint.....it actually looked not too bad from a safe distance..... :shock: :oops: i didn't keep it for long,as i was playing in a blues type band at the time,and none of my bandmates liked the sound i was getting (probably as much my inexperience as the sound of the bass!) :lol: here's the only picture i have of it....
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I would get a toaster pickup, a pickup cover, bridge and mute assembly, and new wiring harness and pots from Ric (going back to 2 pickups); a 1/2" pickguard from Pickguardian; You can keep the TRC and maybe trade with someone for a 4001 TRC. you'll have to decide if you want to go 4 string with a refinish, or keep the original finish and maybe plug and touch up the fifth hole, or keep it five strings and getting the tuners as needed (original holes looks to be wavey Grovers?). More than 4 strings confuses me, so I say go back to 4! :D
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Welcome to the forum, Troy and thanks for that story. Many young players did terrible modifications to their basses, especially back in the '70's and but not just to Ricks.
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Welcome Troy,

Great story!

Not that it will make you feel a lot better, but I've seen much worse brought back to life!

I'd forget the 5 string idea, I don't think that '73 era neck would hold up too well to a 5th string.
I don't know if the 4 to 5 string conversion was ever completed, but that era neck would most likely have an issue with a 5th string.

LoL, I know, I know....Burgundy isn't my favorite either, but mine kind of grew on me after a while.

Good luck with the restoration, keep us posted and don't forget the pictures!
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As a good friend of mine once said...
NEVER on a neck that was not '85 and newer.

Those older necks just won't take it. (the B String)
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Welcome! A fun read for sure.
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My 64 Fender P shed a tear for your 4001. The P has felt the pain of 5 refinishes , replaced pots and pickups :( Still sounds amazing though :D. I like the burgundys. She will make a great restored 4 string.
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Troy, way to make a splash (more like a cannonball) here with the first post. Welcome aboard the RRF train. I agree with Tony and Steve - the neck wouldn't take a B string very well if at all. Do keep us posted (pun was unintentional until I thought about it) on the restoration with pictures and more stories.
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IMHO Burgundy is one of the most beautiful Rick finishes, she isn't too far gone. Just plug the fifth hole in the headstock get it back to 4001 (2 pups) get a toaster for the neck, new rick tuners, bridge saddle and pots leave the finsh original gives the bass character! good luck Great first post welcome. :D
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I had one of my Ricks modified, but I didn't do it myself...
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