Return Of The 4001V63 ...Well,..One Can Hope.

dave4004 · Post by **dave4004** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 3:17 pm

MAKE IT.THEY WILL BUY IT.

Bill, don't confuse the small number of outspoken fans here with the general buying public.

There are fans here who love a number of discontinued models and options. Fact is, almost all of them were discontinued because they didn't sell well. That may not be the case with the 4001v63, but RIC's resources are committed to the C series so don't expect the V to be reissued anytime soon.

bill · Post by **bill** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:34 am

Maybe I'm being selfish.It's hard for me to imagine the 4003s not selling well.But that could be because I,myself, find them so appealing.It seems a simple thing though to leave off the binding and put dots instead of triangle inlay .If there is a demand for it.

dead_in_okc · Post by **dead_in_okc** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:59 am

I would think it is a simple thing ,or there wouldn't have been a V series,or now a C series...However, I would think that if they did do that though,this would probably kill a lot of sales of the C64's....If you can get dots,no binding,and add a toaster,and plus,not have to deal with that hokey,gimmicky,upside down headstock,(just my opinion...nothing against those who like this feature),why buy a C64 for more than double the money?..IMHO,As long as there are 'C' series or similar vintage basses being made for a lot more money,I really can't see this happening....this is Just my opinion...

wormdiet · Post by **wormdiet** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:21 am

I'd love a 4005C 'something-or-other but it won;t happen. . . fun to dream I suppose.

dave4004 · Post by **dave4004** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:44 am

Bill, I think the problem with the 4003S was that the list was only $100 less than the 4003. Dealers just didn't order enough.

I could kick myself for passing up an early 90s 4003S Mapleglo with black trim 2 years ago, it was $600 with no case at a GC.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:08 am

I too prefer the look of the s series. No binding (binding looks old fashioned to me, dot necks. yep, saving my dough!

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:45 am

Jerry,
How can you say that binding looks old-fashioned when the original basses that you desire that are re-issues of the "Old-Fashioned" models DO NOT have the binding? They look, to me, very plain and frankly, kinda boring. So I'll take all of the 4001's and 4003's with inlay and binding and be happy with it, and leave all of the S models and re-issues with horseshoes and such to those of you who love them.

bassplyr4001 · Post by **bassplyr4001** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:05 pm

I love them.......

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:20 pm

Marc, does your C-64 have the inline .0047 cap? It goes from the middle lug of the treble volume control to the three way selector switch. (If you can see through your pick guard this should be a simple task, haha!)
I have passed on several 4001S's because I thought they were the budget models with no stereo, binding, inlays, etc. haha! One was an Autumnglo. I bet a lot of people thought the same thing.
And I saw a bunch of V 63's sitting in the boston area GC's for a long time, I bought one of them for less than a grand complete with the silver case and bought another from another GC for a little more than a grand, this was right after they had been discontinued and GC was trying to get rid of them, I sold them both before I realized what I had. But they were not big sellers when they were out. I myself can't play with the damn horseshoes pickups, love the looks but they get in my way. I still want a C 64 though.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:18 pm

Steve, I mean to clarify. By old fashioned from my perspective, I meant the style I've seen all of my life. I had never seen an s model til getting on this forum (hadn't paid attention to Sir Paul's). The very very few I've ever seen in a store were all non s models. So they look new and slightly streamlined (yes plainer)to me. The dot neck looks faster to me, I have no idea if that is the case. The v63 and the Mac model look modern to me, not dated. And the Cheyennes are awesomely modern looking to me, and no binding. If money were no object, I'd have several of every model. But having to pick and choose carefully my next purchase, I might go for something "exotic", an unbound version. Didn't mean to raise any hackles.

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:16 pm

Jerry,
Didnt mean for that to come off harsh, hope you didnt take it that way. My whole viewpoint comes from when I was a guitarist and thought the "top of the top" was the Gibson Les Paul Custom. NOT the Studio. HATED the Studio because it looked like the cheap, wanna-be version of the Custom. And the Custom had the inlay, and the binding and the extra headstock inlay, and it was gorgeous! (Had 2 of em!)
So now I guess I look at Rics the same way. Love the binding, LOVE the full-width inlay, all the goodies for me! I had a 4003s and sold it, frankly, because I was getting a '73 4001 WITH the binding and the inlay. I feel that it adds a lot to the gorgeous body shape to see it outlined like it is with the binding. The neck didn't seem any faster on the 4003s, by the way!

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:05 pm

I have both. The neck isn't faster to me either without the inlays. I agree that the more plain look of the S models comes off as a budget model, but then they kind of grew on me. I like that the contoured body is more comfortable and hardly anybody uses the Rick O Sound jack anyway.

Bob- I too don't like how the horseshoe gets in the way on a v63, so I removed mine. You just have to get some spacers to fill the void behind the pickup. It still works and sounds the same.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:11 am

That's the big difference between the original and reissue horseshoe. On the original you need the metal pieces on top for the sound.

upstairsdave · Post by **upstairsdave** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:41 pm

I recall reading somewhere that the 4001V63 has a warmer sounding pickup set up than the 4003. I think it also explained the difference is a single pickup vs a dual coil pickup. Anyone know the real difference? I'm a blues player and I like deep bass so the warmth appeals to me when I go shopping.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:54 pm

I fine the re-issue horseshoe pickup to be fairly similar to the modern high gain ...