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Kent, you're likely the first and last person to post anything which came from our local newspaper, the AJ.
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HA!... just lucky I guess
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I read on the Forum That John didnt Like His 325 He got in miami Half as much as his original, Is this true?
If so why didnt he play his original More Ofen?
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Hadn't heard that.

Rickenbacker Guitars and the Rock & Roll Explosion of the 1960s

In Hamburg 1960, the then-unknown John Lennon bought a 325 Capri, which he used throughout the early days of The Beatles. Lennon eventually had the guitar, which originally sported a natural body finish, refurbished in a black finish, officially known as 'Jetglo' by Rickenbacker, and went on to use this guitar during The Beatles famous 1964 debut appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show.

A second 325 model was given to Lennon while in Miami on the same visit to the US. He used this newer model on The Beatles' next appearance on The Ed Sullivan show. Confusingly, a third airing of the Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show featured the formerly mentioned 325 model because the show was pre-recorded during the afternoon of the first show.

Lennon accidentally dropped the second 325 'Miami' model during a 1964 Christmas show, making the instrument go hopelessly out of tune every time he played it. While it was being fixed, Rose Morris, the British importer of Rickenbacker, gave Lennon an export version of the 325 called the 1996. This guitar was later given to Ringo Starr.
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Body Depth Comparison: 325C64 vs 325C58<br />COULD THIS BE WHY LENNON MIGHT HAVE PREFERRED THE OLDER ONE?
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COULD THIS BE WHY LENNON MIGHT HAVE PREFERRED THE OLDER ONE?
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I never heard that rumor. It seemed like JL went back to his Miami guitar as soon as it was repaired. They really are two very different guitars...the '58s are light as a feather, and mine have a thicker feeling neck than the Miami guitar. The Miami's are hotter sounding though to my ear.

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As Bill pointed out, the two guitars are different in almost every aspect. However, I think that he used it from '64 onward simply because it was new and the '58 was battered and rusted. Keep in mind the influence of Brian Epstein, as well as the decision to refinish the '58 325 in black.

Why did Lennon prefer the '58? Could have been any or all of these:

- It had been his main guitar in the early days and held a lot of sentimental value. Lennon made a number of personal modifications to the instrument.

- He preferred the tone/feel of the guitar over the heavier, brighter-sounding 'Miami.'

- The badly-repaired headstock and years of heavy wear on the 'Miami' guitar left it virtually unplayable - Lennon was heard to say during the 70's that it "played like ca-ca."
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It's quite possible that the last track Lennon recorded was with the old Capri on "Walking on Thin Ice". I haven't read any strict confirmation of this, but I've decided to believe it anyway, because I want to.
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RIC describes 325C58 as a "hollow-body guitar is sculpted from solid Alder"

and describes 325C64 as "complete with semi-hollow Maple body"

I would thing that this (along with the different body thickness) would be plenty enough to create a very different feel and sound. And yes, I agree with the notion that Lennon might have moved away from the C58 partly due to Epstein's effort to "clean up the act".
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GRUNDIG TK8 REEL TO REEL. Mister Molyneux,a retired police officer, used this reel to reel to record the Quarrymen on July 6th, 1957. With a hand held mic at that. I think that The George Edwards band set was recorded by Mister Molyneux before the Quarrymen performed, and that both bands appear on the same reel.

A few years had passed since that recording took place, when it was rumored that Molyneux offered the tape for sale to John Lennon, through Ringo Starr. Lennon never replied. So instead, he put the tape up for safe keeping, until 1994 I believe.

Around that time,1994, Molyneux put it up for auction with Sothebys, and it was purchased by EMI ,well below what it was expected to fetch. I heard one partial track off this tape, PUTTIN ON THE STYLE, which was a sample track put on cassette by Sotherbys, so buyers had something to listen to, and it was booted, thats how I heard it.

Stephen Maycock of Sotherbys told The New York Times that it was cleaned up, the original tape, and sounded pretty good. This was also around the time that production on the ANTHOLOGY series was getting ready to rap up. Bob Smeaton, Anthology producer, gave an interview to RECORD COLLECTOR magazine. In this interview he said that it was very listenable, and that the tape had retained its original sound because it was stored very carefully. Smeaton wanted to use this tape in the Anthology series, but like he said, the powers that be voted against it.

He said that Yoko owned the tape, but I heard that MACCA owns it. So does EMI,APPLE, YOKO, PAUL own this tape now. I dont care. I would love to hear this tape in all its splendor, as Im sure many of us would. The South Liverpool Weekly News, reported that the Quarryman performance included the tracks-- MAGGIE MAE, RAILROAD BILL, CUMBERLAND GAP, BABY LETS PLAY HOUSE, BE-BOP-A-LULA, PUTTIN ON THE STYLE, and of course the one Macca claims to have heard, COME GO WITH ME.
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Are these photo's of The Beatles real or pohotoshop forgery?
The AC30's may have belonged to the Fabs, but could it be that they were holding some other band's instruments for some reason?

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"14 August 1963. Odeon Cinema, Wales. John, Paul and George are all playing instruments they've never been photographed playing before. As far as I know, these guitars aren't documented anywhere as having been played by the Beatles during a live show. Why they would be playing instruments other than their own is anyone's guess. Since Photoshop came into the picture, I have a hard time believing anything anymore. It wouldn't be difficult to fake, even for a Photoshop hack like me. And what's with George's left arm, hand and the guitar neck on the top photo? They seem to be missing. His left shoulder doesn't look right either. Sloppy Photoshopping? Whatever the case may be, it looks like George is playing a Strat. Really hard to tell with Harrison. Definitely a Fender headstock. John appears to be playing maybe a Gibson ES-335, with Paul on a Gibson EB-2. Until a better, clearer, photo comes along, I'd say these are fake. "
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[/color]I think the photos are GENUINE.
The Beatles shared the bill for that gig with Billy J. Kramer and the Dakotas
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The Fender isn't there but it sure looks like the other 2 guitars are the ones being held by John and Paul. I think that those Beatle pictures must have been taken during some sort of pre-gig camera or lighting check. Since The Beatles were topping he bill the Dakotas would have gone on before them and when it came time for the check they just used the Dakotas' instruments as props.
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