Bass clip - I'm Running (custom tunings on 5-string)

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Bass clip - I'm Running (custom tunings on 5-string)

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Hello friends,

I concluded the bass cover clip for I'm Running.

When I done it for the first time in audio format, some years ago, I believed that I heard the main bass riff doubled an octave lower (after each 2nd repeat).
Back then I used an octave effect, but now I am more inclined to the possibility of being really two basses (nothing new for Chris).

Although "Big Generator" is in its whole one of the (if not the) least generous bass-mixed Yes albums, I still am able to hear sometimes that low sounding bassline, that yet doesn't seem to be 100% identical, as if it would the case of an octave pedal. If you have by chance the bootleg "Alternate Generator" you will hear those basses a bit better.

Then I got back to Chris' interview on GW, Sep '87, where he mentioned that on one of the songs he used a A-D-G-C-F tuning. It's my belief that this could be the one - in order to play the whole riff an octave lower, fluently, with all the strings on fourths, and taking advantage of the D open string, just like he does with the original octave riff, played with A-E-A-D-G tuning.

On the A-D-G-C-F, however the C and F strings may be irrelevant, because they are never played... well perhaps they are played. It's possible that on one of the repetitions Chris begins the riff on the C & F strings, thus playing it two frets ahead, and then makes the passage to the lower octave (around 5:40). For the video I didn't do it - I just played it like the live versions that I found of some bootlegs.

The A-E-A-D-G tuning is one of the main tunings that Chris used with his Tobias 5-string. That makes it possible to play the low A's on tunes like "Love Will Find a Way" or "Big Generator". It would be interesting if Chris would reveal all tunings used on BG!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfSJnUVgtzY

(press the HD button :) )

Miguel
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Re: Bass clip - I'm Running (custom tunings on 5-string)

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that was just incredible-esp, the harmony/subsonic duplicate runs......this is one of my favorite yes/squire compositions,and i have never been able to come close to being able to play it,except bits and peices...,now tell me more about the bootleg,i would love to hear a live version of this song! thanks again,that was magnifico! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Miguel, another great rendition! It would be nice if Chris would get all of the tunings, settings, amp setups, effects peds etc. written down somewhere. What a wealth of data that would be!!
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Hello Woody,

The bootleg Alternate Generator has the studio tracks of Big Generator in an early stage of production.
I guess the basslines are practically final, and most of it made it to the mix ...if only they would mix it louder... on this bootleg the basses are more audible but the sound quality is overall worse. There used to be a link for downloading this album via some kind of rapidshare, I can post the link if there isn't anything against it.

Then I heard two more live bootlegs where I compared what was played live. Then I arranged a way of how the two basslines would make sense - one equals the live version and the other doubles the first one an octave below.

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Miguel, thanks again for sharing your work here. It really is a pleasure to watch and study your video performances of Chris' basslines.

"I'm Running", along with "Shoot High Aim Low" are two of my favorite Yes tracks. Big Generator was a strange time for Yes music as they struggled to recapture the magic that they had found in 90125. I think that BG came out somewhat darker in tone than 90125 but was more of a "Yes" album (whatever that means) due to stronger input from Jon. Chris Squire's style is heavy on BG as well, and his use of the Tobias 5 string, tuned to "A", sets the tone for the entire set of works. I remember struggling with 90125 when it first arrived:
http://www.rickresource.com/phpBB3/view ... 0&t=380440
but I accepted BG after the second listen. I'm Running is still my favorite track from the CD. Thanks again for your work and please consider posting a master link page to all of your youtube videos for reference.
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