Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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Howdy folks.

It is the Victoria Day long weekend here in Canada. A time to open a 24 of beer and watch the fire works.. (it is the Canadian version of the 4th of July basically)...

Instead I spent an hour with Local guitar hero Bill Dillon!.

Bill has been into Rickenbacker's since he bought his very first one in 1964, (a Rose Morris 1993 that he still has although now modified with Triangle inlays from its original dot inlays)... "If only I had kept that one original" he said to me ruefully tonight... :) It is just like George Harrison's but with the "f-hole" rather then the slash.

Over the years he has owned "a truck load of them", although only 4 are still in his possession today. A couple of years back he sold his 1968 4001 through the 12th fret in Toronto for example.

I contacted him to give him info about ORAC in Toronto on June 6, and also to ask him about my recently recovered 77 jg 320, which I had been told at the time by the salesguy at the Guitar Clinic that it had previously belonged to him. Not true according to Bill, although he does acknowledge that it was possible that he was selling on it behalf of someone else...

Anyway tonight he played a couple of Beatles tunes and we shared the joy of these remarkable instruments...

I retold the story of how we first met back in 1983 when we both answered an ad in the local paper for a Rickenbacker capri. Bill got there 15 minutes ahead of me and bought the guitar for $350, which he still has to this day, sort of...

It has become his favorite guitar, as it was basis of the 355 custom guitar that he built for himself. The neck was absolutely dead straight, and super super thin, I would say about 3/4 the width of my own 320's. It has a single truss rod, and it played like butter, just perfect action. The serial number of the guitar was 2v535 (or perhaps 2v 585) the picture I took of the jackplate is a little unclear... Which means that originally it was a two pickup vibrato (with a kaufman that didn't work anymore). Bill has a bixby on it now... As I recall from back in 1983 the guitar was in really rough shape, the original owner before Bill had stripped it to the maple from its original fire glow.. Also I remember the top pickguard being broken or cracked in half, and the body was pretty chewed...

Bill has had a great history as a professional musician, he has jammed with George Harrison, was briefly a member of the PRETENDERS in the period right after James Honeyman Scott died... and has played as a session musician with 100's of top acts over 35 years. One of his specialties is playing something called a Guitorgan Info on that is here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitorgan

I remember Bill Dillon with Ronnie Hawkin's band (You know the guy that John and Yoko stayed with during their peace tour in 1969/70), and also as part of the Boomers with Ian Thomas of ("PAINTED LADIES, and a bottle of wine mama" Fame). I got given his phone number last week and was really nervous about calling him up... But he was gracious and kind and we met up at a local coffee shop tonight.

Bill told me that he also has a 355/12 John Lennon limited edition given to him by Tom Cochrane after a Canadian tour a few years back. As well as a '68 360 WB that is in pieces being restored. Bill bought another guitar player along with him, who owns a 67 FG 450 12...

With luck, both of them will join us at ORAC on June 6, and more forum members can see this lovely one of a kind guitar.

Here follows a flood of pictures. My guitar now sports a new to me 80's TRC with model 330 on it... It hides the fire damage much better!

I had fun tonight!

Brian
Bill Dillon with my 320
Bill Dillon with my 320
SN 2v585 or 2v535??
SN 2v585 or 2v535??
355 front
355 front
Capri headstick
Capri headstick
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76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
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Re: Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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More images...
Tuners
Tuners
my 80 620 and Bill's custom 355
my 80 620 and Bill's custom 355
Headstock comparison
Headstock comparison
320 and 355
320 and 355
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
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81 BG 480
91 JG 610
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78 TR7
83 TR25
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Bill's guitar is likely the only Canadian capri...
Bodies side by each...
Bodies side by each...
320 and 355 headstocks
320 and 355 headstocks
320 and 355
320 and 355
Same again...
Same again...
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
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78 TR7
83 TR25
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Last batch... At least till I take some more at ORAC on June 6th!
Sorry I am horrible with names!   Bill's friend with his 355
Sorry I am horrible with names! Bill's friend with his 355
Bill's friend with my 320 for comparison purposes
Bill's friend with my 320 for comparison purposes
Bill again with my 320
Bill again with my 320
Last picture with Bill
Last picture with Bill
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
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81 BG 480
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Re: Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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Very cool read-----we need pics of Bill's 1993 !! Tell him, shame about the inlays...he can just send it my way. :wink:


Funny enough, I'm really into Guitorgans also. I have had a few over the past year, and currently own a '78 B-35 (ES-335 shape, set neck) that I bought from Norm Harris (Norm's Rare Guitars). Very bizzare instrument, but super cool once you figure out how to make the most of them. The kind of thing that is hard to describe in words, really. I am still trying to figure out when/how to take a video playing it, and post on Youtube. What kind of Guitorgan does Bill play? There were a few models..
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collin wrote:Very cool read-----we need pics of Bill's 1993 !! Tell him, shame about the inlays...he can just send it my way. :wink:


Funny enough, I'm really into Guitorgans also. I have had a few over the past year, and currently own a '78 B-35 (ES-335 shape, set neck) that I bought from Norm Harris (Norm's Rare Guitars). Very bizzare instrument, but super cool once you figure out how to make the most of them. The kind of thing that is hard to describe in words, really. I am still trying to figure out when/how to take a video playing it, and post on Youtube. What kind of Guitorgan does Bill play? There were a few models..

I am not sure what model guitorgan it is but here is a picture pulled off FREEDOM TRAIN's facebook page...
Bill with his guitorgan
Bill with his guitorgan
Also there are pictures of Bill with this band, at http://www.freedomtrain.ca/aimages.htm in gallary 2. Note the FG RM 1996 that he was using at the time..
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74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
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Re: Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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Very cool, he's got a nice little collection!

His Guitorgan is a B-300 model. Based on a bolt-neck Univox 335 style hollowbody. Very cool guitars, and great mid-production guitorgans.
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Very cool.

So I take it Bill had a new body made for the guitar, and this was a 335 Capri originally..?
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leftybass wrote:Very cool.

So I take it Bill had a new body made for the guitar, and this was a 335 Capri originally..?
Yes that is correct.

It looked like this one if my memory serves. http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... lebrity%3D

He built the body for it himself out of a solid chunk of maple.. The middle pickup was not original to the capri.

Remember Bill comes from an era before these guitars were vintage and precious. In 1965 he re-did the neck of his RM 1993 so that it looked like George Harrison's. Cause that was what you did if you wanted your guitar to look like someone elses. Rickenbacker's were always hard to come by in Canada... There were no vintage re-issues, etc.
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74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
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81 BG 480
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"Bill has a bixby on it now..."
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jingle_jangle wrote:"Bill has a bixby on it now..."
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http://www.tdpri.com/forum/b-bender-for ... post387051

One day I will learn to spell... :oops: :oops: :oops:
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74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
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Interesting post Brian! Is Bill planning on coming to ORAC?
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86kubicki wrote:Interesting post Brian! Is Bill planning on coming to ORAC?
Fingers crossed! I would like to see more pre 1970 RICS myself... :D
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in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
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Re: Bill Dillon and his 58 MG 355

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This reminds me.....I had an old guitar that had a Bixby affixed.
When I first got it, friends looked at me like I was their favorite Martian. The Courtship was soon over.
After awhile, I got used to that old Hulk. But then, later, it seemed kind of dead to me......:oops:

PS: My '59 345 serial number is 3V581...
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jwilli wrote:PS: My '59 345 serial number is 3V581...
That is neat... Just looking at the register I had not realized before that all the capri's both the 3 pick ups and 2 pick up models were numbered sequentially...

I would love to see some images of your guitar!
Brian Morton
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in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
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