Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Thanks, Peter. Again, no offense intended, and I certainly do not want to come of as the kind of customer who serially attacks businesses and their representatives for no good reason. My stake in this issue is find out before I buy a new instrument a) how serious this issue is when it occurs; b) how widespread it is in recent production Rickenbackers; c) what causes the problem; and d) how Rickenbacker chooses to deal with the problem. The answers to these questions at this point seem to be: a) pretty serious--the green haze does not polish out, but needs to be sanded off; b) hard to say, but between this and another thread, plus a couple of dealers that I've spoken to in my search for a new Rickenbacker who have returned instruments with similar finish issues, it is at the very least not an isolated incident; c) also hard to say, but long term storage in the case seems to be a factor in each instance; and d) so far so good--Ric seems to be stepping up as soon as the issue comes to light on particular instruments, and once it becomes clear that the customer is not comfortable remedying the issue at home.

I know I'd be heartbroken if I ordered a beautiful mapleglo or fireglo Ric, only to open the case to find this marring of the finish. If the issue has to do with the case lining and the guitar's finish reacting somehow, I would also be concerned that wet sanding would not solve the underlying issue. Fortunately RIC is not the kind of company to leave you out in the cold on an issue like this, so that is some reassurance as I move forward with my shopping.

Thanks for the welcome, all, and hopefully my future posts won't deal with quite so contentious an issue! I really am a nice guy! REALLY! :D
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For what it's worth,the Mapleglo 33O I bought from MF in July doesn't have any sign of the "The Green Rash",yet. Mine was made 02/09. I just put this info out there in case it helps anyone clear up this mystery of "The Green Slime".

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just caught this whilst window shopping as you do.... :mrgreen:
Is this a candidate ?
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product- ... +Inc.+Case
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scotty wrote:just caught this whilst window shopping as you do.... :mrgreen:
Is this a candidate ?
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product- ... +Inc.+Case
Argh...thar she be

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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Arg arg arg lets not do the pirate gags again Mitch im sure we had about 5 pages in the others a few months ago. :lol:
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scotty wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: Arg arg arg lets not do the pirate gags again Mitch im sure we had about 5 pages in the others a few months ago. :lol:
Sorry Scotty,I was just getting ready for September 19th
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Well at least Mr Witty's new aquisition will be OK.

Looks like green could be the unintentional COY for 2009.

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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Wow, that is turning out to be quite the problem.

Broken R tailpiece? That is soooo last year, it's all about the green rash now! :wink:
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scotty wrote:just caught this whilst window shopping as you do.... :mrgreen:
Is this a candidate ?
http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product- ... +Inc.+Case
Wow "Miss Marple" that is a very detailed spot - I'm impressed. The images of current guitars from "that shop" may be older than they look (e.g. I've spotted their MG 330 being re-sold on eBay already this year and I believe that it was an early 08). Is it something to do with the new UV/CV reacting with the case lining or is it a new case lining? Will it smell the same? Either way I'm sure that resolutions are being found by RIC, like the MID binding bleed issue - and the new MID is REALLY nice; in the meantime...I've always loved Jetglo. :D
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PS.
octagon wrote:
scotty wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: Arg arg arg lets not do the pirate gags again Mitch im sure we had about 5 pages in the others a few months ago. :lol:
Sorry Scotty,I was just getting ready for September 19th
I was there at the real thing, har har to be sure...er...innit! - 1,469 pirates in Brixham me harty's. And Blackbeard was born not a a pigeons spit from where I reside, so it is, and ...so...er...it...is.

http://www.brixhambuccaneers.co.uk/BB%2 ... 02009.html

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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Its Mitch i swear he plays his guitar with a hook. :lol:
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Makes sense, every song needs a good hook. :)
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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Amazing how threads can go in different directions.

To update my original post, I got my problem solved without having to send it back to the factory. A friend of mine who has been working on guitars for about 35 years took care of it. He got the green part out with a polishing cloth and some Planet Waves cleaning polish. He said it took about 20 minutes, and he also fixed the pickup selector switch by resoldering it.

He also told me that Gibson used to have the same problem with a green rash going into the finish of their white guitars, so they switched the color of the case liner from black to white - problem solved. I have to say that a nice Fireglo against white case liner would be pretty amazing! I'm going to pick up the 330 tomorrow, just in time for the weekend.
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Sooo...it didn't need wet-sanding after all..just a quick buff with some compound and a soft cloth. It couldn't have been anything but surface discoloration.
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Re: Ric Cases and the Green Rash

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Yes, thank goodness there was no sanding required. Thanks for the suggestions you made as well Paul. As I mentioned earlier, the rash on this 330 wasn't very noticeable compared to the original one I received. Hopefully RIC gets things sorted out with the case manufacturer, as its inconvenient for everyone involved.

When I mentioned the problem to Musician's Friend they said that they don't open the boxes to inspect guitars, and they would put any guitars with this issue in the scratch and dent category. I guess they move too much volume to worry about inspecting guitars before they ship them to customers. So those of you looking for a deal might be able to score some Green Rash Rickenbackers from the Scratch and Dent section of MF's website.

As a side note, both of the 330's I received had an incorrect NAFTA number which indicated to Canada Customs they were made in China. As a result I had to pay import duties on them, and both of them had issues of some kind. I also got 2 360's which had the proper NAFTA number and no issues which is kind of an odd coincidence. When I called Musician's Friend to tell them about the NAFTA error, they refunded the duty on both shipments for me within a few days. Despite the trouble, I found MF to be have really good customer service.
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