F-series in burgundy

[casinoman]

Has anyone of you ever seen a 2nd generation F-series in burgundy? Since neither Graham nor Ron seem to have one I guess there is none . To me it's sursprising, since the F-series was available when burgundy had it's prime time. Or am I mistaken?

[collin]

Well----any F series, 2nd or otherwise, is rare----and original 60's Burgandyglo is relatively rare, so coupled together, it would be crazy rare.

...but I'd sure love to see one!

[kennyhowes]

Me, I've never seen one.

On my short list of dream guitars, though, is a re-furbed Type I F-series in Burgundy, ala the Gretsch Tennessean.

Gretsch Tennessean.

[libratune]

Has anyone of you ever seen a 2nd generation F-series in burgundy? Since neither Graham nor Ron seem to have one I guess there is none . To me it's sursprising, since the F-series was available when burgundy had it's prime time. Or am I mistaken?

Based solely on the information on the Register, the last of the 2nd generation "F" bodies was produced in mid-1968 with one exception -- a 360F-12 in Autumnglo produced in August 1969. The first of the Burgundy finish instruments was produced in September 1968. Accordingly, there may have been a slight gap between the phasing out of (most of) the "F body production and the introduction of Burgundy as a standard finish in late 1968.

I have not seen an"F" body in Burgundy.

[route66guitars]

Based on what I’ve seen there was likely only one production run made of the second generation (controls mounted to the body, not pickguard) F models. The earliest serial number I’ve seen was from October 1967, on a FireGlow 360F-12.

When I went through the remaining old stock stored in the RIC factory in late 1988 there were quite a few F models from that run that hadn’t been final assembled. Possibly more even than had been shipped until that time. All were FireGlow of one variation or another, MapleGlow, and one that was found unfinished and was shot JetGlow to cover some unpleasant wood patching. None were BurgundyGlow.

Never say never, but it’s not an instrument I’d lose sleep over trying to find...

[sloop_john_b]

When I went through the remaining old stock stored in the RIC factory in late 1988 there were quite a few F models from that run that hadn’t been final assembled. Possibly more even than had been shipped until that time. All were FireGlow of one variation or another, MapleGlow, and one that was found unfinished and was shot JetGlow to cover some unpleasant wood patching. None were BurgundyGlow.

Scott, were those guitars completed and sold?

[route66guitars]

When I went through the remaining old stock stored in the RIC factory in late 1988 there were quite a few F models from that run that hadn’t been final assembled. Possibly more even than had been shipped until that time. All were FireGlow of one variation or another, MapleGlow, and one that was found unfinished and was shot JetGlow to cover some unpleasant wood patching. None were BurgundyGlow.

Scott, were those guitars completed and sold?

Yes. All of them were completed and sold between March 1989 and late 1990. The ones you see in Bacon and Gruhn’s books, as well as most of the 12 strings and all of the prototypes out in the wild were from these ‘left over’ instruments. I believe that all of the F models were completed with correct era parts, although one or two of the 12 strings may have the replica Kluson tuners.

[sloop_john_b]

Yes. All of them were completed and sold between March 1989 and late 1990. The ones you see in Bacon and Gruhn’s books, as well as most of the 12 strings and all of the prototypes out in the wild were from these ‘left over’ instruments. I believe that all of the F models were completed with correct era parts, although one or two of the 12 strings may have the replica Kluson tuners.

Fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing!

[casinoman]

It's kind of crazy how just 20 years ago there was unsold stock because nobody cared for those guitars, and now people would die to get a hold of one (at least some people would )

[JakeK]

On my short list of dream guitars, though, is a re-furbed Type I F-series in Burgundy, ala the Gretsch Tennessean.

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Kenny, I actually have my eye on that same Tenny. It's a really rare Tenny, too, to have the pickguard that it does.

[route66guitars]

You don’t want to know what they sold for… (ask Graham, but he probably won’t tell you