Treble Pickup Bezel

Vintage, Modern, V & C series, Fretless, Signature & Special Editions

Moderators: rickenbrother, ajish4

User avatar
tomersg
New member
Posts: 68
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:01 am

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by tomersg »

berth wrote:I Understood he won't unless you take 10 minimum. Someone at a Dutch bassguitarist forum I frequently visit organizes ordering 10 at the moment. :)
I'm not sure there are even 10 Ric basses at whole israel... :?
User avatar
berth
RRF Consultant
Posts: 1723
Joined: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:06 am
Contact:

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by berth »

tomersg wrote:
berth wrote:I Understood he won't unless you take 10 minimum. Someone at a Dutch bassguitarist forum I frequently visit organizes ordering 10 at the moment. :)
I'm not sure there are even 10 Ric basses at whole israel... :?
Then skip to plan B. Let someone in the states order you one.
68 4001|73 4001 MG|75 4000 MG|81 4001S AZG|86 4003 MID/BT|86 4003 Shadow|88 4003s Blackstar|89 4003 Grey/BT FL|93 4004 Ci|96 4003S/8 FG|98 4003S/5 JG|05 650D|05 4004Cii/5 TG|08 660/12 JG|18 4003S/5 MID|19 4003S/5 WAL ||TR35B|RB 30||
68Goldfish
New member
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by 68Goldfish »

I just got one of these over the weekend. Instalation was a breeze and it looks perfect. I wouldn't hesitate to recomend it to anyone.
User avatar
ilan
RRF Consultant
Posts: 2903
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:00 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by ilan »

tomersg wrote:I'm not sure there are even 10 Ric basses at whole israel... :?
I'm sure there are. Between You, Marc Lazare, Gil and myself, we have more than 10, and that is only counting Israeli Forumites. In fact I'm sure there are over a couple hundred 4001's and 4003's in Israel, including some rare examples (like a 4000 with a horseshoe pickup I foolishly passed years ago...)
"A Noble Instrument Must Be Nobly Regarded"
Jim Dandy
Junior Member
Posts: 111
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:36 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by Jim Dandy »

Glen - Thanks for the review! I have a couple of questions about it, if you don't mind. How stable is the bezel when you rest your thumb on it? Can you feel it moving at all?
User avatar
BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
Professional Player
Posts: 1857
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:58 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS »

to me, it looks like the entire width rests underneath the inside of the surround so movement seems unlikely depending on the strength of the spring pressure under it. i've seen various styles of springs over the production life, so a spring with less wraps will possibly allow it to move slightly. not much surface for thumbresting as it will depend how much coil heighth is available through the opening. also, there have been many varying shapes of coil bobbins so gaps will occur on some. maybe fitting will be an issue on some as sometimes the coils are not centered on the plate 100 % of the time. i've had some poles that were well off center to the adjusting screws on the surround. not an exact fit science.
User avatar
Tarrbot
Intermediate Member
Posts: 776
Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:13 am

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by Tarrbot »

BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS wrote:to me, it looks like the entire width rests underneath the inside of the surround so movement seems unlikely depending on the strength of the spring pressure under it. i've seen various styles of springs over the production life, so a spring with less wraps will possibly allow it to move slightly. not much surface for thumbresting as it will depend how much coil heighth is available through the opening. also, there have been many varying shapes of coil bobbins so gaps will occur on some. maybe fitting will be an issue on some as sometimes the coils are not centered on the plate 100 % of the time. i've had some poles that were well off center to the adjusting screws on the surround. not an exact fit science.
Well, I got mine today for the S/5 and it fits well. I assumed that the springs fit under the bezel.

No movement. And seeing it in person you can see why. It's not flimsy at all. Very sturdy and the big pup adjusting screws also keep it from moving.

IMO, every 4003 should ship with one of these or something very similar to it so that when you have the cover removed, just pop this in place and that ghastly cavity is cleaned up.

A lot of folks don't use the cover and when people see a Rickenbacker without the cover, that ghastly cavity is glaring out. Like the eye of Sauron.
Eye-of-Sauron-icon.png
Eye-of-Sauron-icon.png (3.02 KiB) Viewed 1683 times
Selling a 4003 with one of these would go a long way to polishing the overall fit and finish that a lot of people seem to complain about, IMO.
User avatar
cassius987
Senior Member
Posts: 4723
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:11 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by cassius987 »

I think the people who notice the cavity the most are the players, not so much the people watching. If it works for you I wouldn't be ashamed of it in the slightest. I never once looked at--say--Geddy Lee playing with a Ric and went, "Oh my, look at that cavity!" Or Paul d'Amour for that matter, who played a shoeless Horseshoe on his 4001CS.
User avatar
Tarrbot
Intermediate Member
Posts: 776
Joined: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:13 am

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by Tarrbot »

Too true, Josh.

And just last night I was doing the exact opposite and implying that a lined fretless wasn't so bad and it was all in the sound coming out.

I must be schizo lately. :oops:

The long and short of it, though, is that this is a nice piece that compliments the looks.
68Goldfish
New member
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by 68Goldfish »

Jim Dandy wrote:Glen - Thanks for the review! I have a couple of questions about it, if you don't mind. How stable is the bezel when you rest your thumb on it? Can you feel it moving at all?

Well, you can push it in if you want but it takes some pressure. Nothing you'd do normally. Once it's all in place it's not going anywhere. I do agree with a previous statement about the pickup not being exactly centered on the plate so it's not perfectly centered in the hole of the bezel but you have to look really close to see it.
User avatar
rickenbrother
RRF Moderator
Posts: 13194
Joined: Sun May 26, 2002 5:00 am

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by rickenbrother »

Welcome to the forum, Glen.
JETGLO should officially be renamed JETGLO ROCKS! :-)
68Goldfish
New member
Posts: 9
Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:34 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by 68Goldfish »

rickenbrother wrote:Welcome to the forum, Glen.
Well, thankyou!
User avatar
paul_yan
RRF Consultant
Posts: 2119
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 2:09 pm
Contact:

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by paul_yan »

Welcome aboard, Glen! Thanks for the review.
User avatar
BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
Professional Player
Posts: 1857
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:58 pm

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS »

just looking at it again, i was thinking it could be moulded with a dimple on the one side to allow for one's thumb to rest in it as they were playing before while resting the thumb on the edge of the coil. this is an idea for those who did rest their thumb there previously. two models...one with dimple , one without ? just a passing thought. of course there is the problem of the 4001 basses issued with the flat top surround...three models ?? geddy would want a dimple !
rickaddict
Senior Member
Posts: 6163
Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:46 am

Re: Treble Pickup Bezel

Post by rickaddict »

BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS wrote:just looking at it again, i was thinking it could be moulded with a dimple on the one side to allow for one's thumb to rest in it as they were playing before while resting the thumb on the edge of the coil. this is an idea for those who did rest their thumb there previously. two models...one with dimple , one without ? just a passing thought. of course there is the problem of the 4001 basses issued with the flat top surround...three models ?? geddy would want a dimple !
I like the dimple idea. I had a couple of these bezels for a day or so before I shipped them out to Mario and Jurgen. I asked Mario if I could open the part and check it out before I sent it on. He agreed, so I did! I think it's really well designed. It is more flexible than... say, the bridge pickup base plate, but it wouldn't bend under normal use. It fits very nicely under the newer scooped surround and not as nicely under flat 70's type surround but I think it would still work.

I'm all about resting my thumb on the pickup though and the bezel wouldn't allow me to do that so I wouldn't want one. The route around the pickup never bothered me. I might try one of these if it were made with a dimple as Ron suggested.

One thing I'm curious about that no one has commented on is...Does it affect the sound? I would think that part of what I hear and love about my Ricks has to do with sound waves bouncing around in that hollow cavity surrounding the bridge pickup. So what happens to the tone when we seal off the cavity?

When I inspected Mario's, I fitted it to a surround and pickup I have that aren't installed on a bass, so I didn't get the chance to find this out for myself.

:?
Post Reply

Return to “Rickenbacker Basses: by Joey Vasco & Tony Cabibe”