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Rickenbacker tailpiece as makeshift bigsby

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My only electrc guitar from 95 through 2005 was a Rickenbacker 330. I had never played a guitar with a "whammy bar" at that point. I used to push down on the R tailpiece for that effect and later realized that it's the equivalent of pulling up on a whammy bar. Does anyone use the R as a makeshift bigsby? Does anyone pull up on it a little to get the effect of pushing down on a "bigsby"? I'm considering getting back into a Rick but like to play with a bigsby. I'm not convinced that I would want to install an aftermarket bigsby. Sorry for the dumb question. Thanks -- Matt
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Here's a whole thread all about that subject. Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to install a Bigsby B3 on a 330 after reading through the thread.

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pocaloc wrote:Does anyone use the R as a makeshift bigsby? Does anyone pull up on it a little to get the effect of pushing down on a "bigsby"? I'm considering getting back into a Rick but like to play with a bigsby.
You can't achieve the effect of pushing down on a Bigsby using a R tailpiece. When you push down on a vibrato arm, you loosen the tension (and lower the pitch) of the strings. Whether you push or pull on an R tailpiece, you increase tension and raise the pitch.
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beatlefreak wrote:
pocaloc wrote:Does anyone use the R as a makeshift bigsby? Does anyone pull up on it a little to get the effect of pushing down on a "bigsby"? I'm considering getting back into a Rick but like to play with a bigsby.
You can't achieve the effect of pushing down on a Bigsby using a R tailpiece. When you push down on a vibrato arm, you loosen the tension (and lower the pitch) of the strings. Whether you push or pull on an R tailpiece, you increase tension and raise the pitch.

Oh..OK. That answers my question. Thanks
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Tou could always find a Rick with an Accent vibrato.
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beatlefreak wrote:
pocaloc wrote:Does anyone use the R as a makeshift bigsby? Does anyone pull up on it a little to get the effect of pushing down on a "bigsby"? I'm considering getting back into a Rick but like to play with a bigsby.
You can't achieve the effect of pushing down on a Bigsby using a R tailpiece. When you push down on a vibrato arm, you loosen the tension (and lower the pitch) of the strings. Whether you push or pull on an R tailpiece, you increase tension and raise the pitch.

While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
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Ric-O-Buc wrote:
beatlefreak wrote:
pocaloc wrote:Does anyone use the R as a makeshift bigsby? Does anyone pull up on it a little to get the effect of pushing down on a "bigsby"? I'm considering getting back into a Rick but like to play with a bigsby.
You can't achieve the effect of pushing down on a Bigsby using a R tailpiece. When you push down on a vibrato arm, you loosen the tension (and lower the pitch) of the strings. Whether you push or pull on an R tailpiece, you increase tension and raise the pitch.

While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
Yeah, I do remember him making that action in old videos I've seen of him. I'll have to try that on my current guitar.
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Call me when you need that neck reset... :lol:
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Ric-O-Buc wrote:While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
No biggie on a recent model, but don't do it on an old one!!!
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jingle_jangle wrote:Call me when you need that neck reset... :lol:
Rock and Roll ain't supposed to be safe.... :shock:
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My main instrument is drums....so pummeling things is part of my nature. :lol:
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Actually, I get a pretty good vibrato just shaking the neck back and forth while I'm holding a chord. Everyone's happy and I don't have to bother Paul with neck resets when he's busy doing other nice work... :wink:
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Ric-O-Buc wrote:While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
Works best on first-position chords-which Pete uses a lot of-so I'd bet he did. The approved technique is:

Brace upper bout with forearm and elbow
Grab neck between first and third fret
Push or pull neck to achieve desired pitch
Call Rickenbacker and schedule your neck reset
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kennyhowes wrote:
Ric-O-Buc wrote:While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
No biggie on a recent model, but don't do it on an old one!!!
ABSOLUTELY +10000
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whojamfan wrote:
kennyhowes wrote:
Ric-O-Buc wrote:While perhaps not recommended, you can grab the headstock and push forward - lowering the pitch, albeit not a dive-bomb.... Didn't Pete Townshend do this?
No biggie on a recent model, but don't do it on an old one!!!
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