Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame for the Searchers

jjr · Post by **jjr** » Sun Oct 01, 2000 7:29 pm

I think the "Searchers"(and I mean McNally, Pender, Jackson, Curtis, Allen and Adamson-that covers all their great work) get into the Hall. If their clones can, they should. Chris Hillman acknowledged the Byrds' debt on his linwer notes for his version of "When You Walk in the Room" on his last CD. I wrote a letter to the Hall (the address is on the website-the Nominating apparatus is in New York. No answer. I wrote to David Hinckley, the rock critic, who agreed they deserve admittance, but doesn't think they'll make it- the "quota" was filled by the Beatles, Stones and Who. How about a groundswell

admin · Post by **admin** » Mon Oct 02, 2000 3:23 am

John: Bravo. It would be high time that the fans made some noise. The contributions that The Searchers have made to rock music have long been overlooked.

RJHC · Post by **RJHC** » Mon Oct 02, 2000 12:49 pm

_I'M AFRAID JOHN R. LEFT OUT BLUNT . ANYWAY THE

SEARCHERS BELONG IN THE R&R HOF MORE THAN SOME OF

THE JACKASSES WHO ARE IN THERE ALREADY . THE

SEARCHERS ARE THE MOST UNDER-RATED GROUP IN THE

HISTORY OF ROCK AND ROLL .

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Tue Oct 03, 2000 3:26 am

The Searchers deserve to get get in on the basis of "Needles And Pins" and "When You Walk In The Room" alone. When you think of all the artists who have been influenced by these two records (Byrds, Tom Petty, Bruce Springsteen, etc), surely it is only right that the originals should be inducted.

Where do we send the petition?

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 6:04 am

Sadly, "hipness", which usually means acts like the Eagles and the Bee Gees is what gets most people in the Hall. I would dearly love to see the Searchers there, but Paul McCartney is probably the only person in a place to make that happen at the moment. Maybe we should get a petition going and send it to him. Otherwise, I don't think the selection committee, which is heavily weighted towards 70's top forty acts, would give the Searchers much credence.

Jeff

jjr · Post by **jjr** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 3:55 pm

Tim,

I sent the address for the selection committee,as well as more info to Wendy. She may still have it

John

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Feb 19, 2001 4:11 pm

While not always the most popular of British Groups, the "Searchers" sound made them favourites of all the British Groups, past and present. The "sound" that was the Searchers, was the precursor to the music that was to be know as the British Beat. Anyone who has heard John play the 12 string, or the harmony of the group would understand why they must be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The group is widely appreciated and respected by
their peers, it about time they were equally recognized and respected by the Industry.

Tom Crossen

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Mar 07, 2001 6:41 pm

Does anyone think that the real reason why the Searchers haven't been inducted in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is because (1) they didn't write enough strong single material, (2) they did too many covers or (3) the Hall is deaf.

jjr · Post by **jjr** » Wed Mar 07, 2001 8:21 pm

Ed,

I think #3. The Hall seems to have gone scichzo between obscure bluesmen, and artists whose only claim to fame is sales (After about the 4th or 5th class)I also sense a certain snobbery toward "pop" music, as opposed to other types. They have been very slow in acknowledging
"Doo Wop" artists. And, as David Hinckley wrote to me, he thinks that while the Searchers deserve admission, they're up against a perceived quota for the British bands, since the Beatles, Who, Stones, Animals(??), Kinks and Led Zep are in. Add to that the positively byzantine selection process, which is closed to the public, and they're screwed, unless somebody like McCartney, the Byrds, or Tom Petty gets behind a push.

And then there's the little problem of which Searchers get in, who shows up, who'll play w/ who at the admission, etc. So it doesn't look good.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 1:21 am

Excellent points John. What Searchers would qualify as "The Searchers" for the purpose of the induction. Would Mike, John, Chris and Tony be the ones, or would you include Frank as well?

jjr · Post by **jjr** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 3:36 am

I would include Frank, and Billy Adamson (for the Sire Sessions). Since John Blunt's work here was limited to the 45 "Have You Ever Loved Somebody", and since I'm not real fond of his Keith Moon/Ginger Baker meets the Searchers drum style, I'm a little leery of him. I'd leave off Spencer and Eddie. Problem is I think Frank and John would want them in, and I don't think they'd play w/ Mike, a la Fogerty and CCR. Don't know what they feel about Tony and Chris.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 4:28 am

While there is enough bitterness and resentment in The Searchers' personnel to last a lifetime, I would have to think that to be inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame would override the "pride factor." This surely has to be the ultimate dream for any of them. The Searchers certainly deserve to be inducted, but your point is well taken. Would they need solidarity among them to be inducted?

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 10:17 am

The line-up, to be inducted, would have to include Frank otherwise I can't see John going along with it. Even then, it would take some mighty persuasion skills to get him to stand alongside Mike. Also, given his unpredictability, it is by no means certain that Chris would turn up.

jjr · Post by **jjr** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 12:52 pm

The last time I saw Frank and John (mohegan Sun 2000), I got the impression they wanted Spencer and Eddie in, and wouldn't appear w/ Mike. Assuming they(John, Mike, Frank, Tony and Chris) can be gotten in, and John and Frank would agree to appear w/ Mike to play (I assume they would share a stage to receive an award), and Chris showed up, there's still that little potential problem of a visa for Tony- who recently did a stint in the "joint". Could be a problem if the conviction would be a felony over here, maybe?

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Mar 08, 2001 2:03 pm

Tim and John: As far as I know, getting in to the RnR Hall of Fame is not contingent showing up at the ceremony, or is it. I acknowledge that it would be awkward but not everyone would have to be there.