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Okay, so the weather got hotter... I checked my tuning and it's fine... yet, when I play the g-string something inside the guitar is vibrating along. It's soooo annoying. I took the scratch plates off, looked inside, closed it up... still the vibrating. Anyone any idea? Here's what I looked at:

Pick-up covers - no
Tailpiece - no
Knobs loose - no
switch loose - no
scratch plates - no

lying the guitar down on the bed and hitting the g-string... put my ear to the soundhole - it IS coming from the inside :cry:
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Truss rod or bridge saddle, most likely...
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jingle_jangle wrote:Truss rod or bridge saddle, most likely...
Paul, I took the bridge saddle off - no, still got the sound.

I decided to remove the pressure from the strings a bit and then retune it... now the sound is as good as gone.
One can hear it a faint tiny bit if you hear closely (put your ear near the strings). Does that mean there's something wrong with the truss rods or am I majorly overreacting (as usual when I suspect there's something wrong with the Rick)?
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How did you play the guitar with no bridge saddle? I suspect you thought I meant "bridge cover".

The saddle is the tiny alloy square that the string passes over on the bridge.

As to any other diagnosis, I can't be more specific without having the geetar in my hands...
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jingle_jangle wrote:How did you play the guitar with no bridge saddle? I suspect you thought I meant "bridge cover".

The saddle is the tiny alloy square that the string passes over on the bridge.

As to any other diagnosis, I can't be more specific without having the geetar in my hands...
Woops, sorry, Paul - I'm talking about guitars all day in german these days... or maybe I just need to learn to take the time to read what people write? :oops:

The sound is coming from the direction of the neck pick-up - which I raised a bit, and lowered a bit. Loosened and fastened the pick-up cover, too.

Last time I checked there was a small puddle between us, so not much chance of seeing the guitar anytime up close.

But, your help is much appreciated in this verbal way too, Paul! :D
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just an idea - if it has toasters - couldn't it be one of the magnets going in and out ? i have seen loose magnets before...
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grazioso wrote:just an idea - if it has toasters - couldn't it be one of the magnets going in and out ? i have seen loose magnets before...
My 360 has the modern hi-gains, Dusan, where one can adjust the individual poles with one of the little wrenches.

Thanks for mentioning the pick-ups again, though, as I just remember, I adjusted the poles last weekend - I'll remove the neck pick-up if the sound reappears. Just checked and luckely no evidence of the sound anymore.

There's barely ever anything wrong with the 360, so when something does seem wrong I panick. I'll never get rid of this guitar :D
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Okay, so the noise re-appeared at d-string. Turned out that when it's out of tune the lower scratchplate vibrates, too... slightly turned the screws and retuned that string.

In the meantime the b-string is still giving off a weird noise... had our DPS Andy check it at work... we spend over 2 hours trying to find it!
Nothing seemed to work - only when he pressed down the bridge on the high E-string side did it stop.
Nothing wrong with trussrods or neck or anything else.

Still I get this extra sound - never when playing it open, always when picking 2nd or 3th fret - a chime sound. Very annoying.
We looked at the bridge, of course, but nothing we did seemed to have effect except for the little pressure... any ideas?

Oh, and some advice: if you take your Rickenbacker to work, expect some drooling, comments on the great quality and overal positive impression the guitar has on folks that sell another brand :D
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Re: Bad Vibrations

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Werner slacken off all the strings and remove the bridge cover.Then take off the 6 Saddle Bridge and make sure that all the screws are of equal distance( I normally place on a mirror or glass) so that all contact points are level and bridge is at a level when placed flat.Put back on the guitar and keep bridge at a level so you know all the contact points are bedded.Also just a question does this make a noise when the bridge cover is both on and off? My 360 doesnt like the bridge cover so i dont use it.
Werner it might help to get a few pics of your bridge at different angles and is your string action maybe a tad low.Maybe even a small video with a webcam?
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