Is this a fake 360?

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Is this a fake 360?

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I just sent the guy a text, but noticed the odd tailpiece and got to wondering what the whole story is. I wouldn't buy without better photos, but I thought I'd solicit the opinions of the rick forum too:
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/msg/1754708756.html
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The odd tailpiece is an Accent missing the arm, meaning this is a 365 model. Photos aren't very good but it appears legit to me. But I'm no expert.
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Does the 365 model mean it was made in the 70s or 80s, or has Ric been making them off and on all along?
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I don't see any obvious red flags. Looks to be a 21 fret 365, which would make the guitar (I'm guessing) late '60s/early '70s. Pictures aren't the greatest but if the guitar is in playable condition and legit, $800 would be a deal. I'm no expert, does anyone know when the transition to 24 fret necks began?
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Accents started showing up in the '60's. This model also has full width inlays. RIC only recently started using FWI's again, but I'm not sure when they were first discontinued.
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Clint wrote:I don't see any obvious red flags. Looks to be a 21 fret 365, which would make the guitar (I'm guessing) late '60s/early '70s. Pictures aren't the greatest but if the guitar is in playable condition and legit, $800 would be a deal. I'm no expert, does anyone know when the transition to 24 fret necks began?
There were 24 frets showing up beginning in the early '70's as far as I know. Since this model also has hi-gains I would tend to think, if it is legit, it's an early '70's 365.
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dph wrote:Does the 365 model mean it was made in the 70s or 80s, or has Ric been making them off and on all along?
It's a 1960s Rick. It's a 365 instead of a 360 because it has the Accent Vibrato tailpiece. "5" denotes that the guitar has a vibrato tailpiece. The 21 fret neck and full width inlays indicate it's a 60s model. The hi gain pickups indicate that the model was made towards the end of the decade, if the pickups are original. The truss rod cover is also the vintage 1960s "plexi" type, meaning the cover is clear, with a back painted plexiglass logo, instead of a raised white letter logo.

Rick went to 24 frets in the early 1970s, not sure what year, but my friend's `74 has 24 frets, so it was before then. I think it was 70-71.
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paologregorio wrote: The 21 fret neck and full width inlays indicate it's a 60s model.

There are a number of early '70 models with full width inlays and some with 21 frets.

Here is an example of a '71 off the registry.

http://rickresource.com/register/viewit ... lebrity%3D
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Anywhooo, if it plays well, it's a greeaaaattt deal.
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