ACTUAL Paul and George argument. / sessions

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johnnysain wrote:
Whatever.....it's my belief that Paul...

1. took the most bunk of anyone in that group.

2. was the most dedicated to keeping them together.

3. carried the group in the final years.

4. had the most talent.


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FretlessOnly wrote:I too think that Long, Long, Long is a fantastic song. And as for the recording, consider where the track falls: right after the blistering Helter Skelter and right before Revolution 1. To me, it's no accident that everything was brought down for LLL; ... and I find the entirety of LLL to be finely-executed.
On the original LP, LLL closed out Side Three, and then we rested.
One had to get up off their duff to flip the LP over to hear Revolution 1. :-)
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gibsonlp wrote:
congerz83 wrote:
wolfgang wrote:
George knew how to hurt

He did know how to hurt! I wonder how long it took for Paul's ears to stop bleeding while workng on, Love To You, You Like Me too Much, Piggies, Whithin You Without You, Long... Long... Long..., Blue Jay Way, Think For Yourself, etc, etc, etc.....

Shall we continue? George recorded 12 solo albums we can pick apart......
Long Long Long is a wonderful song.
I like Within you Without You. George always seemed to be bitter about the whole Beatles experience. I still love him, but watching interviews with him he just seemed very unhappy with it all. Especially if you watch the Anthology.
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hello,
George came to the eastern music while doing the Help! film sessions (the Indian restaurant scene with the restaurant band).
After all, to me, this music and philosophy was his life saver. Helped him to stand the pressure.

While, after Rubber Soul, McCartney wrote more and more novelty songs, Harrison wrote some quite innovative rock songs.
He was the first Beatle to write a song about the musical busines, and, so to say, a song from inside the Beatles: Only a Northern Song (I know, most of you dislike it).

I want to tell you was great.
Blue Jay Way superb.
It's all too much,
While my guitar gently weeps, Long long long, Piggies, all great
Even better:
Old brown shoe, Here comes the sun
and his very best song:
Something.
Not to forget the last Beatles song ever recorded, the song about the Beatles' end:
I,me, mine


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I also agree that paul was the most talented just cuz he could move between a number of instruments very well and obviously could write. if I'm not mistaken the get back sessions preceded the abby road sessions so although let it be was released after abby road "I,me,mine". shouldn't have been their last recording... Again if I'm not mistaken
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Yep. Mojo Magazine (October 2010) has a nice Paul McCartney/Beatles/Apple series of articles, and it notes that the "I, Me, Mine" session on January 4, 1970 (without Lennon) was the last time that McCartney would record with the group for 24 years.
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October 2010 ? But we are still in September 2010 !!

Paul is enormously talented, but without John to balance things out, his solo writing became a bit too bubblegum for my taste.

John continued with his masterful raw but musical style, evidenced in his First solo album.

George was masterful without needing the other two. He was not only influenced by Middle Eastern music, but by European Classical music, evidenced by his use of diminished and augmented chords.

And Ringo was an excellent Lead singer, too bad we didn't get more of his singing. He has a penetrating vocal sound, demonstrated in the song "Good Night" (White Album).
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Zurdo wrote: John continued with his masterful raw but musical style, evidenced in his First solo album.
Besides ROCK AND ROLL and DOUBLE FANTASY, I think John's albums, though well written, were very depressing. I think it was a look into John's complicated life at the time. When he was happy, the tracks showed it. After Sean was Double Fantasy. He was very happy and content in his life. It's a shame that we never got to see him write happier songs. :(
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that's what I mean, depression and bubblegum equal = Beatle music.
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Zurdo wrote:that's what I mean, depression and bubblegum equal = Beatle music.
I don't know if it was intended that way but this was a laugh out loud moment when I read it. ;)

In the book, "Can't Buy Me Love", the author talks about how cheerfully the Beatles sang "Misery". ;)
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Don't know if this has been added yet, but by 1974, during George's infamous Dark Horse tour, he and John lost their friendship...

Apparently, the first night of the tour, John had sent George flowers and agreed to appear on stage with George during one of the final nights of the tour. George was waiting for John to come, but when John showed up, he oddly refused to come onstage. He went backstage to talk to George, but George was cross with John and questioned him on why he didn't play. John didn't answer, so George angrily ripped off John's glasses and smashed them. John said, "He was [upset], so I let him do it. Don't know why I did." I also heard that there was some punching involved? It was clear that George and John wouldn't speak again for the rest of John's life.

There was also some talk about John appearing at "Concert for Bangladesh", but after an involved heated argument right up to moments before the last rehearsal in New York between John and Yoko, it didn't happen and John went home to Tittenhurst.
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been there, done that....not to the point of a physical confrontation like they might have, but to the point where a band member decides to blackmail the rest of the band by saying "I'm not playing tonight".

After being a live-music musician since 1963, that's one big reason I play with a Sequencer: the sequencer does not play out of tune, or out of time, it does not blackmail the others, it does not show up drunk, it does not show up "ill-clad" (to quote Brian Epstein), and, it always shows up to the gig.

the worst thing that can happen is that the dammed sequencer blows up during a performance, :mrgreen: and that is an "act of god" which nobody can predict or control.
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