WHY REPAIR GUYS SHOULD STICK TO REPAIR

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johnallg wrote:Sounds like you had a run of luck on that refin, Paul.
Yeah, but if that was typical, look out for other owners not interested in refinishes!

Fullerplast on poplar and hard maple was probably a bad choice. On ash and alder and pine, it's probably OK; they're more open-grained. Poplar is very close-grained, so although Fullerplast and similar polyesters have a good film strength, their penetration is not great. If the polyester was sprayed at the end of a pot, this could affect adhesion, too, though in the end, film thickness and strength would keep things together. Vinyl sealer is much better on poplar.

I also wonder if the impact of the bead-blasting accelerated the separation of the cured polyester from the smooth poplar.

Nitro on bead-blasted polyester would give good adhesion for a limited amount of time, but not forever (and, apparently, not even two decades!). Sanding to prep the polyester surface would be much better.
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Here's another one of those looks that did not quite work...
I have since fixed up the lines a bit (the centreline mainly) and the next one will be a little easier on the eye.
It does however play remarkably well (Just ask Evan) :mrgreen:

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You're in the wrong thread, my friend.

That is as good as 90% of what's out there already and better than most.

You've got a good eye, Eden.
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I agree with Paul. You should be proud of this one, Eden. 8)
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weemac wrote:Here's another one of those looks that did not quite work...
Not a fan of those ugly PRS-style headstocks but other than that it isn't too bad.
I think you might have tried to hard to make a unique design rather than going for form and function. More of an 'art project' if you will than a guitar i'd actaully want to play. Of course, the thing about that is, you can always make new designs. From a craftsmenship standpoint its great, so you can always make more and try out other ideas.
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Spike- wrote:Not a fan of those ugly PRS-style headstocks but other than that it isn't too bad.
I think you might have tried to hard to make a unique design rather than going for form and function.
A new, pleasing on the eye headstock is probably the hardest bit to come up with, In my defence It was built more than 10 years ago so I used the idea before many other builders... (I wanted the straight string line of the PRS design for function and I offset the tuners as I believed that It would provide a better behaved string tension than some other designs, In truth I could not say if offsetting the tuners does anything now.....) :lol:

Actually, the design came from pure function, from the way it hangs off the strap to the high fret access. The construction (if not the materials) however is rooted in tradition. It has the same style of neck joint as an early 60s Sg and the 70s 4000 which adds a unique sonic character.
It is very light and stable + it has a unusually even response, There is always clarity from the lower strings and warmth from the upper strings.
I built it as a bit of a laugh but It has become the guitar that I prefer since I retired (for now) my 66sg junior.
It works well through both Valve and Solid state amps...
I'll do a vid for it some day...

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Spike- wrote:
Not a fan of those ugly PRS-style headstocks but other than that it isn't too bad.
"Not too bad" is not too helpful as a critique, being very vague. But Eden is 100% right--attractive headstocks are a bear to design, and even among current production guitars and basses, most are at best inoffensive and some obviously "forced" and/or just plain ugly.
I think you might have tried to hard to make a unique design rather than going for form and function.
"Unique design" is a relative term. A guitar is, above all, a tool whose form is subject to the limits dictated by its function. Possibly you're referring to creating a unique, never-before-seen, headturning shape. The vast majority of guitars and basses that are created with their primary criteria being "unique", in fact, turn out ugly and/or dysfunctional. Guitar design is, by nature, somewhat derivative. That's why, when we see a classic, we know it. It's also why there are so very few classic electric guitar and bass designs.
More of an 'art project' if you will than a guitar i'd actaully want to play.
You just contradicted yourself, Erik...is it "going for form and function" or "an art project"? "Art project" implies that form and function were secondary, art being more of a personal expression than anything with practical considerations. An ideal design would combine personal interpretation of the form, in a way that supports the function, and do it in a visually appealing manner. Add to this the very rare circumstance of a guitar design being so "right" that it never seems to age, and you've got a true classic. I'm not saying that Eden's is any kind of "classic" but it's an appealing effort. I just imagined it in a three-tone sunburst finish, and it would be absolutely stunning; the pale silver-blue metallic is a somewhat weak color choice.
Of course, the thing about that is, you can always make new designs. From a craftsmenship standpoint its great, so you can always make more and try out other ideas.
Agreed on this--except I'd clarify by separating the thing itself from the act of creation: "Design" is both a noun and a verb, and greatly misused in both forms. So, a person would "create" a design, and then a craftsman would "build" it to the designer's description, whether it be verbal, written, or drawn.

The last sentence simply re-states the obvious. And I do hope Eden keeps on with this pursuit. It takes a lot of organization, skill, and patience, not to mention no small amount of knowledge and craft experience, to construct a playable guitar from scratch. To do one to your own design is no mean accomplishment.

Your turn to build and post, Erik! :wink:
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