Tuning up a whole step?

[egosheep]

I was thinking of those chords where you combine notes higher on the neck with open strings to get those closely spaced jangly chords. You need a capo to get these voicings in F#....

With a bit more thought I realised there are, of course some similar chords in F# in standard tuning as the open E and B are diatonic to the scale. Just not the voicings I'm used to in E, A or D....

Having only recently adopted a capo I'm a bit overenthusiastic about their application!!!

I love my capos as well!

[jimk]

I've been experimenting with this lately.

It works well on six string guitars, not so well on 12 string guitars. The little fingers tend to pinch each pair of strings together in a fashion I don't like. I'd like to find a capo that will only cover four pairs of strings on my Rick. A banjo capo is too large for this. The Shubb partial capo only covers 3 pair of strings.
JimK

[jdogric12]

I've been experimenting with this lately.

It works well on six string guitars, not so well on 12 string guitars. The little fingers tend to pinch each pair of strings together in a fashion I don't like. I'd like to find a capo that will only cover four pairs of strings on my Rick. A banjo capo is too large for this. The Shubb partial capo only covers 3 pair of strings.
JimK

I'm still bitter about this... a bandmate and I had this idea. Got beat to the punch though, before we could get a prototype to some associates in China.

[jimk]

Sorry about that, Jdog.
JimK

[buchrob]

Jdog, at least you won't have to deal with the lawsuits concerning necks with indentations on the sides, discoloration of the binding due to frequent use, or some guy putting his eye out when a string broke as he moved a wonky lever.

[jdogric12]

They would be welcome to sue me and take any part of my debts they like!

[Ilikewater]

I believe the comment about the extra 100 lbs of pressure John made was in regards to taking 6 off of a 12 string and converting to "Nashville tuning/stringing," not so much tuning it up a whole tone. Stick with light strings and adjust the truss and you should be fine.

[egosheep]

I believe the comment about the extra 100 lbs of pressure John made was in regards to taking 6 off of a 12 string and converting to "Nashville tuning/stringing," not so much tuning it up a whole tone. Stick with light strings and adjust the truss and you should be fine.

I think it would be ok, too. Even with 10's, the pressure of F# on the neck has to be less than the pressure of another 6 strings tuned to standard pitch.

[Jonesey]

I've taken my Jazzmaster a whole step up with no problems - even with 10's and 11's. But don't try it with old strings unless you have a new set for backup.
Havn't tried it with my Rick though, but gonna try it when I get cash for extra strings. But I retune constantly and never had a problem except old strings.

[s4001]

I'm not really jonesing to do it myself. I'm asking because while doing some Smiths research, I've noticed that Johnny Marr played a lot of his guitars this way. It's common knowledge that he played a lot in F#, but I never realized how many guitars used live, tuned up that way without a capo: His early Gretsch, his 330, his '59 ES355, his '72 and '85 Les Pauls and his green Tele. It was a little surprising. It would certainly give me pause to tune a vintage 355 up that way!

Go to Youtube and email the Primrose League guy. He seems to have his Smiths down.

[egosheep]

I'm not really jonesing to do it myself. I'm asking because while doing some Smiths research, I've noticed that Johnny Marr played a lot of his guitars this way. It's common knowledge that he played a lot in F#, but I never realized how many guitars used live, tuned up that way without a capo: His early Gretsch, his 330, his '59 ES355, his '72 and '85 Les Pauls and his green Tele. It was a little surprising. It would certainly give me pause to tune a vintage 355 up that way!

Go to Youtube and email the Primrose League guy. He seems to have his Smiths down.

I know Daniel, but when I say "Smiths Research", I'm talking about serious geek territory. I run Smiths On Guitar.