Question about keeping my finish safe

Low End Lover · Post by **Low End Lover** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:23 pm

Hey RRF,

I posted this over in the Ric Forum, but with all the great help I have gotten here, I figured I'd post it here just to see what I hear back. Here's the original post. Feel free to comment if you know something regarding this...

"Mr. Hall,

I am the proud owner of 4 of your wonderful guitars, a 7/2008 4003FL, 11/2009 330/6 & 620/12, and a 1/2010 4003. I recently bulit a guitar stand/rack to hold these guitars. I used some spray adhesive, 3M Super 77, to glue some strips of fabric in place to protect the necks where they will rest when sitting in the stand. In the process of this, a little of the spray adhesive got on some of the fabric strips where they will contact the necks of the guitars. My question is if the adhesive will react to the finish on the guitars. I was planning on letting the adhesive dry 24 hours before setting them in the stand, but will wait until I hear something back from you as I do not want to take a chance on damaging the finish.

Thank you for your help,

Jason"

There you go...

marcinkus · Post by **marcinkus** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:22 pm

I think that the best place you can store your instruments in is the original hardshell case...

fireglo67 · Post by **fireglo67** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:41 pm

marcinkus wrote:I think that the best place you can store your instruments in is the original hardshell case...

+1

Low End Lover · Post by **Low End Lover** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:35 pm

While I can see both of your points, your posts aren't helpful to me for the following reasons:

1. I asked about the potential for a reaction between the finish and the adhesive I used, not the pros and cons of keeping them on a stand vs. in a case.

2. These are very nice, handmade wooden stands that I have built to store multiple guitars on. Plus, they will be stored in a closet and not out in the open where dust and light can get to them.

3. I have limited space and I am sick of tripping over cases and not being able to get more than one guitar out without it being an ordeal.

Once again, I didn't metion all this because it didn't seem relevant given my OP. However, it seems that is it, so there you have it. Any help on my original concern would still be appreciated

LEL (Jason)

8mileshigher · Post by **8mileshigher** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:58 am

Maybe this technical question about the possibility of the adhesive vapors in the fabric possibly damaging the Ric's finish ought to be posted over in Paul W's sector viewforum.php?f=14&start=0

jdogric12 · Post by **jdogric12** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:11 am

I used multi stands (store bought, not DIY) for years and just draped yellow RIC cloths over the contact points since I had a ton of them sitting around. I don't think I'd risk what you're trying, nor would I bother doing the necessary research on the chemical compunds and reactions involved. And with no disrespect to anyone here, remember free advice is often overpriced. You spent enough on your Ricks already, go the distance and maybe buy the 3-stand from RIC that resembles their silver cases?

Low End Lover · Post by **Low End Lover** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:04 pm

8mileshigher wrote:Maybe this technical question about the possibility of the adhesive vapors in the fabric possibly damaging the Ric's finish ought to be posted over in Paul W's sector viewforum.php?f=14&start=0

That sounds like it might be best. Is there any way to get a moderator to move it or should I just re-post over there. A mod can PM me and let me know.

Thanks,

LEL (Jason)

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:27 pm

I'll answer this anyway; may take awhile to get it moved...

The problem is not with the cloth...it's with the adhesive. Any can of spray adhesive will say on the label that it should not come into contact with painted surfaces.

What will this do to RIC conversion varnish? It will cause it to soften and swell. Not good.

What will this do to RIC UV-cured polyester? Untested on the RIC polyester, but not a huge problem with other makers. However, if it does affect the RIC polyester, too, your warranty will NOT cover it.

Do what Jason says--drape a cloth.

I use two types of hangers and stands in my studio and shop. One uses black foam, the other pure gum surgical tubing, as cushioning. Neither has had any effect on my Ricks over three years of hanging/placing on stands. One nitro Fender has seen some dulling of the neck. Polished out easily with some Scratch-X.

cassius987 · Post by **cassius987** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:13 pm

jdogric12 wrote:maybe buy the 3-stand from RIC that resembles their silver cases?

The what now? I didn't know that existed.

jps · Post by **jps** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:54 pm

Many of us got ours during the RIC 75th Anniversary celebration weekend.

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cjj · Post by **cjj** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:02 pm

It's not on the boutique, but it looks like this in the price list:
94600 Guitar stand, resembles Tolex guitar case, holds three guitars $260

You should be able to order it from a dealer I'd think...

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:51 am

Jason, for twenty-five + years I've kept all my instruments in their original cases stood upright in my music room closet. You've seen them. The only wear on the finishes is the honest wear I've put on them gigging with them.

Low End Lover · Post by **Low End Lover** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:38 pm

UPDATE:

Paul W. & I did some PM's back and forth and I went and got some self-adhesive felt and used it instead and got all the spray adhesive residue off with some lighter fluid which worked like a charm. Now, all my guitars are safe and sound in their new rack in a closet. I will try and post pics here so folks can see what I did. This has made life a lot easier for me as 6 guitars with hardshell cases in a tiny room was simply getting to be too much when I would have folks over to jam or wanted to use more than one guitar when I am working on stuff.

Thanks for all the input,

LEL (Jason)

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:37 pm

Excellent, Jason!!!

When I was in my first (tiny) house in No Cal, I had room for four guitars and one small amplifier. Within a short time after my Rickenvirginity was lost to a 660/12, I had strayed with a 381V69, and then...

I moved to my second house. A dozen Ricks, a few Gretsches, a flight of Fenders, and four amps. Oh, some combo organs from the '60s. I rented a storage space for the cases and hung stuff on the walls, rotated the amps, etc.

Third house. Finally built a dedicated room.

It's challenged.

ram · Post by **ram** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:57 pm

How much space does one need.... a little more.

Jason glad you got it worked out.

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