RWRP Bridge Pickup Mod Tutorial

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RWRP Bridge Pickup Mod Tutorial

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A few years ago I remember a RIC corporate forum member posted that he had done an RWRP modification to his c. 2006 4003's bridge pickup. This mod essentially puts a 4003 on the same plane as a Jazz Bass as far as hum canceling, i.e. when both pickups are on, at the same volume and in the same phase there is significant 60 Hz hum reduction. Under other conditions (unequal volumes, 0.0047 cap in-line) the hum canceling won't happen.

I was intrigued by this mod. I had noticed the occasional hum issue with my 2007 4003, although it was not a frequent problem. It mostly happened at home and not at gigs. On the other hand, why wouldn't you want the option to cancel hum, when needed? For rock music, where I typically use both pickups full-on, it seemed like an ideal situation. After reading his description I tackled it and came out successful. But I was nervous doing the job; that I got it right the first time was a bit of skill and probably a bit of luck. Either way I was spared some frustration. The result was not even a slight change in tone, just an OCD-soothing absence of hum in the pickup blend mode. Years later this pickup configuration is still going strong for me; I recently gigged the 4003 and it was a show-stopper. Lots of compliments.

I recently decided to do this again for a second bass. It's the second time I've done this mod and I've made a photo tutorial for others who want to do the same.

1. Measuring the pickups--two single coils with fairly similar resistance are ideal for canceling hum.
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2. Observe what the bottom of the pickup looks like for reassembling it. An eyelet connects the ceramic magnet to ground, as well as the lead shield and a second eyelet that grounds the pickup surround. Closer inspection of the primary eyelet shows the grounded end of the coil soldered to it and the hot end of the coil in a heatshrink-covered joint with the lead wire. These joints will have to be spliced.
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3. I like to "label" the stock ground wire of the pickup coil with a piece of Scotch tape. This will be spliced back as the hot wire after reassembly. Cut the hot and ground connections on the coil side leaving a 0.5'' section behind so you can strip them later and have a decent-sized lead.
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4. Remove the bobbin from the magnet and label the side that faces the bobbin "RP" (for reverse polarity). Rotate it 180 degrees horizontally, and put the cut leads back through the same holes in the magnet.
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5. Remember to line up the bobbin and the magnet so that the screws will connect.
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6. Reassemble the magnet, bobbin, and phenolic baseplate. Put heat shrink on the coil leads before soldering them in their new configuration (the one with the Scotch tape on it goes to the pickup lead wire).
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7. This is how my pickup looks after reassembly. I measured it with the multimeter and it measures about 100 ohms higher than before--probably heat from the soldering iron creeping into the coil. In a few hours it will go back down to the room temperature value.
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There you have it! Just some free info for those seeking it... hope it helps you, whoever you are.

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Thank you kindly, Joshua.

I love tutorials. :)
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Great tutorial, as there are lots of requests for 'how do I ...'

After seeing this, I believe I did mine wrong. When I cut the leads at the magnet, I resoldered them to the same original wires once I flipped the magnet, and I changed the bridge pups leads at the pot and selector switch, so the shielding in that wire may no longer be doing what it should. Not sure why I did it that way, as it was way more work to do such.

One thing I did do that may help some, is that I drilled an extra hole in the magnet's center along the edge so the pups leads drop through the mag easier once it is flipped. That way, you don't have to do a rotation of the bobbin to get the leads to drop through the original holes, and your E string pole piece you so carefully adjusted still remains under the E string.
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Tarrbot wrote:Thank you kindly, Joshua.

I love tutorials. :)
No problem! I like tutorials too, and I'm kind of trying to "pay it forward" since nice guys on the forums like BlueAngel gave me so much information for free in the past.
coolhandjjl wrote:After seeing this, I believe I did mine wrong. When I cut the leads at the magnet, I resoldered them to the same original wires once I flipped the magnet, and I changed the bridge pups leads at the pot and selector switch, so the shielding in that wire may no longer be doing what it should. Not sure why I did it that way, as it was way more work to do such.
Yeah, now your shielding is acting as your hot... oh well. If you shielded the pickup and control harness it's probably just the same.
One thing I did do that may help some, is that I drilled an extra hole in the magnet's center along the edge so the pups leads drop through the mag easier once it is flipped. That way, you don't have to do a rotation of the bobbin to get the leads to drop through the original holes, and your E string pole piece you so carefully adjusted still remains under the E string.
Actually it's not necessary to do that. You just need to rotate the magnet in the proper direction, i.e. 180 degrees on the horizontal (instead of the vertical) axis. If you do that you can use the original holes the same way the stock configuration does. But as above, if it got the job done, that's all that really matters. :)
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cassius987 wrote:Actually it's not necessary to do that. You just need to rotate the magnet in the proper direction, i.e. 180 degrees on the horizontal (instead of the vertical) axis. If you do that you can use the original holes the same way the stock configuration does. But as above, if it got the job done, that's all that really matters. :)
Thanks for clearing that up. I was afraid I'd mess up the polarity by doing a 'rotate' after the 'flip'. I should've stayed in engineering school.
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Nice pictorial step by step, Joshua! :)
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Very helpful info Joshua. This should become a sticky in the Technical section.
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johnallg wrote:Very helpful info Joshua. This should become a sticky in the Technical section.
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T.A.R. wrote:
johnallg wrote:Very helpful info Joshua. This should become a sticky in the Technical section.
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Nice tutorial with good pictures. Thanks for posting it!
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The blue mark on the bobbin in step 4- where does that mark now reside in picture 5 (or is this picture "post" bobbin rotation)? Is it now on the left side of the magnet in picture 5? The "rotate it" in step 4 refers to the bobbin, not the magnet? Thanks for any clarification. Chris


4. Remove the bobbin from the magnet and label the side that faces the bobbin "RP" (for reverse polarity). Rotate it 180 degrees horizontally, and put the cut leads back through the same holes in the magnet.
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5. Remember to line up the bobbin and the magnet so that the screws will connect.
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Chris, not to answer for Josh, but from the orientation of the tape on the coil lead I would think the magnet was just laid over the coil as it sits in the picture. The wire with tape is still on "top".
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correct, as shown in picture 5. I think where I'm confused is picture 4- is it showing the coil before or after turning 180 horizontal. I think it's post turning. My initial read of picture 4 was pre turning of the coil, hence picture 5 didn't make sence to me.
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Thanks, Joshua!

I still don't know that I have the courage to try it, but this is a great resource should I ever decide to!
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chrisdski wrote:correct, as shown in picture 5. I think where I'm confused is picture 4- is it showing the coil before or after turning 180 horizontal. I think it's post turning. My initial read of picture 4 was pre turning of the coil, hence picture 5 didn't make sence to me.
John is right. The bobbin does not change orientation! The magnet is flipped over on the horizontal axis to reverse the polarity and what reverses coil is how you resolder the leads... no need to physically manipulate the bobbin.
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