Add Binding?

General Rickenbacker discussion

Moderators: rickenbrother, ajish4

User avatar
kieran campbell
Member
Posts: 207
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:08 am

Add Binding?

Post by kieran campbell »

Is it possible to put binding on a Ric that doesn't have any binding, like a 330? Sorry for the 'noob'nes of the question :)
Sign the petition- http://johnlennonday.com/
User avatar
winston
Membership Admin
Posts: 11010
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:00 am

Re: Add Binding?

Post by winston »

Yes of course it's possible................but I would suggest that you contact Paul W with some more specifics about your guitar, so you can obtain some advice and cost estimate etc. You may want to ask him to perform the work for you because it is not something that those without experience would likely want to try to tackle.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein

"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
User avatar
libratune
Veteran RRF member
Posts: 4255
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:06 am
Contact:

Re: Add Binding?

Post by libratune »

Brian is of course correct that Paul W. is the expert.

I do recall that one challenge of binding a 330 is that the edges have to be routed, which is very difficult to do without disturbing the finish on the adjacent wood surfaces. So the process of routing and binding a 330 body will generally involve a refin.
User avatar
collin
Senior Member
Posts: 6992
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by collin »

libratune wrote:Brian is of course correct that Paul W. is the expert.

I do recall that one challenge of binding a 330 is that the edges have to be routed, which is very difficult to do without disturbing the finish on the adjacent wood surfaces. So the process of routing and binding a 330 body will generally involve a refin.
I've done it without refin, but would HIGHLY prefer to not do it again, and to advise others the same. I can't even begin describing the painstaking process involved, trying to keep the finish intact. It only kinda works on beat up guitars anyways, as getting it 100% perfect without refin is nearly impossible.

It can be done, but it generally requires a refin and is difficult without detaching the neck (router can't get in where the body horns meet the neck).
User avatar
collin
Senior Member
Posts: 6992
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by collin »

PS....it can depend on the year of the 330 too. Certain years (mid 90s come to mind) seem to have more rounded edges that don't take binding as well (as flush) as vintage 60s and recent CNC-era models.
User avatar
kieran campbell
Member
Posts: 207
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:08 am

Re: Add Binding?

Post by kieran campbell »

Great guys, thanks!
Sign the petition- http://johnlennonday.com/
Ivan3000
Advanced Member
Posts: 2392
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:53 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by Ivan3000 »

You can get it routed for binding, and just to sample it out, buy some thick pinstripe tape and run it along the edges, see how you like it!
User avatar
collin
Senior Member
Posts: 6992
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by collin »

IvanMunoz wrote:You can get it routed for binding, and just to sample it out, buy some thick pinstripe tape and run it along the edges, see how you like it!

Uh.....I think once you've routed it, you're pretty well committed at that point.


Ps....all guitars look better with binding anyways
User avatar
kieran campbell
Member
Posts: 207
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:08 am

Re: Add Binding?

Post by kieran campbell »

I wasn't planing on doing it myself, I was just wondering if there are people who could do it out there.
Sign the petition- http://johnlennonday.com/
User avatar
billydlight
Member
Posts: 480
Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:46 am

Re: Add Binding?

Post by billydlight »

collin wrote:
libratune wrote:Brian is of course correct that Paul W. is the expert.

I do recall that one challenge of binding a 330 is that the edges have to be routed, which is very difficult to do without disturbing the finish on the adjacent wood surfaces. So the process of routing and binding a 330 body will generally involve a refin.
I've done it without refin, but would HIGHLY prefer to not do it again, and to advise others the same. I can't even begin describing the painstaking process involved, trying to keep the finish intact. It only kinda works on beat up guitars anyways, as getting it 100% perfect without refin is nearly impossible.

It can be done, but it generally requires a refin and is difficult without detaching the neck (router can't get in where the body horns meet the neck).
Really? I thought watching you do it was easy :lol:
User avatar
jingle_jangle
RRF Moderator
Posts: 22679
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:00 am
Contact:

Re: Add Binding?

Post by jingle_jangle »

collin wrote:


It can be done, but it generally requires a refin and is difficult without detaching the neck (router can't get in where the body horns meet the neck).
That's why the Tool God made very sharp chisels and opti-visors. Takes about 30 minutes to do both sides; no neck detachment necessary.

I'm finishing one of these up as I write this. Probably have done somewhere in the neighborhood of three dozen of these since '05.
User avatar
paologregorio
Senior Member
Posts: 6376
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Add Binding?

Post by paologregorio »

billydlight wrote:
collin wrote:
libratune wrote:Brian is of course correct that Paul W. is the expert.

I do recall that one challenge of binding a 330 is that the edges have to be routed, which is very difficult to do without disturbing the finish on the adjacent wood surfaces. So the process of routing and binding a 330 body will generally involve a refin.
I've done it without refin, but would HIGHLY prefer to not do it again, and to advise others the same. I can't even begin describing the painstaking process involved, trying to keep the finish intact. It only kinda works on beat up guitars anyways, as getting it 100% perfect without refin is nearly impossible.

It can be done, but it generally requires a refin and is difficult without detaching the neck (router can't get in where the body horns meet the neck).
Really? I thought watching you do it was easy :lol:
If Collin made it look easy, then he must be getting really good at it! :D
User avatar
collin
Senior Member
Posts: 6992
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by collin »

jingle_jangle wrote:
collin wrote:


It can be done, but it generally requires a refin and is difficult without detaching the neck (router can't get in where the body horns meet the neck).
That's why the Tool God made very sharp chisels and opti-visors. Takes about 30 minutes to do both sides; no neck detachment necessary.

I'm finishing one of these up as I write this. Probably have done somewhere in the neighborhood of three dozen of these since '05.
Course! :)

That's how the process was described to me before, but I haven't taken the plunge yet. I probably will though, as I plan to bind a '60 450 project before refin.
User avatar
jingle_jangle
RRF Moderator
Posts: 22679
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:00 am
Contact:

Re: Add Binding?

Post by jingle_jangle »

That will be a sweet one, Collin. Single or double? If you're refinishing anyway, you can separate the wings with heat and you won't need that chisel. Rout, bind, reglue the wings, and Robert's yer mother's brother.
User avatar
collin
Senior Member
Posts: 6992
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Add Binding?

Post by collin »

jingle_jangle wrote:That will be a sweet one, Collin. Single or double?

Double, I think i'll try my hand at CB this time, as the guitar will be Jetglo. 8)

Keeping the original dot/unbound fretboard, so it will be sort of a 460/450 hybrid.
(This is that teardrop butcher-mess from last year...finally getting around to it. :lol: )
Post Reply

Return to “Rickenbacker General: by Howard Bishop”