New Bass Concepts / designs

[berth]

I didn't realize until the last MARF that a 480 body was the same size as a 4001 body. It blew my freakin' mind.

[wim]

I didn't realize until the last MARF that a 480 body was the same size as a 4001 body. It blew my freakin' mind.

Body and neck of the 480 are way out of proportion.
The whole thing would've looked better if the body were reduced to 75% the size it had.

As for the bass desing, I once tried to bring the it into the 21st century, I never finished it though.
Lack of time, say. It remained a countour, with still plenty of work to adjust.

[berth]

Body and neck of the 480 are way out of proportion.

I could'nt agree more about the neck. Way too small for my hands. It should have the neckwidth the 650D I traded it for has. Then it would have been perfect.

[pag]

Hello Ivan,
Yes the "Custom Shop 4001s Relic" is actually my old RM #DA24.
For the sake of argument the name for any dreamed up "Custom Shop Masterbuilt Relic" re-issue would have to be a 4000 series bass plus the variant.."s" etc.
You couldnt call the Japanese "1999" re-issue an "RM"1999 because Rose Morris of London didnt import them and you would fall foul of the Trades Description Act
in England for example.
Whichever description you choose its still a pipe dream.
For me a real start would be the New Concept/design of a non lifting aluminium tail that fits modern and old basses.
Even the current casting of tail could have a plate added underneath the rear section to take a couple of securing screws accessed via the string holes.
That would look far better than adding more screws to the outside top which I have always thought spoils the original lines.
A retro/C64 style look tail thats sturdy and straight and gives no trouble would be a great relief to many of us I think.
The current casting of tailpiece has got to be the weakest design feature of the post 72 basses.

[pag]

Oh and by the way to anyone who thinks an actual RM is the same as any of the "V" reissues.
Its like a Mini Cooper S compared to those new so called Minis.
The new one has a look of the old one but thats where it ends.

[Ivan3000]

Oh and by the way to anyone who thinks an actual RM is the same as any of the "V" reissues.
Its like a Mini Cooper S compared to those new so called Minis.
The new one has a look of the old one but thats where it ends.

I'm sure...I'd love to have a real 1999 someday.

[bassduke49]

Oh and by the way to anyone who thinks an actual RM is the same as any of the "V" reissues.
Its like a Mini Cooper S compared to those new so called Minis.
The new one has a look of the old one but thats where it ends.

And since much of the appeal of Rickenbacker instruments is based on nostalgia, looking old is on point. The efficacy of the "lifting" tailpiece aside (in most cases, the lift of the current production tailpiece is minor and as pointed out on this forum is easily countered), making a new "vintage" model with the exact features and materials as those used in 1964 would likely produce instruments that would be considered disappointing or defective by today's users. Sure, existing RM's are great and their owners are pleased and proud to have them, but how many survivors are there left now? Maybe a few dozen? Who knows how many are moldering away in land fills after they were discarded due to warped necks or other seemingly unfixable faults. A lot of improvements have been made to the Rickenbacker bass over the decades, and to go back to old production methods and materials to produce a 100 percent genuine vintage model would be pretty silly.

[Ivan3000]

Oh and by the way to anyone who thinks an actual RM is the same as any of the "V" reissues.
Its like a Mini Cooper S compared to those new so called Minis.
The new one has a look of the old one but thats where it ends.

And since much of the appeal of Rickenbacker instruments is based on nostalgia, looking old is on point. The efficacy of the "lifting" tailpiece aside (in most cases, the lift of the current production tailpiece is minor and as pointed out on this forum is easily countered), making a new "vintage" model with the exact features and materials as those used in 1964 would likely produce instruments that would be considered disappointing or defective by today's users. Sure, existing RM's are great and their owners are pleased and proud to have them, but how many survivors are there left now? Maybe a few dozen? Who knows how many are moldering away in land fills after they were discarded due to warped necks or other seemingly unfixable faults. A lot of improvements have been made to the Rickenbacker bass over the decades, and to go back to old production methods and materials to produce a 100 percent genuine vintage model would be pretty silly.

Fantastic Point. For example, the 4001C64 is all vintage looking but has double truss rods.

[aceonbass]

For example, the 4001C64 is all vintage looking but has double truss rods.

Rickenbacker basses have always had double truss rods.

[marc61]

New bass concept....
Rickenbacker Custom Shop Masterbuilt 1964 4001s relic.

You're gonna make Mr Hall use the F word...ending in ender

[analogpackrat]

I didn't realize until the last MARF that a 480 body was the same size as a 4001 body. It blew my freakin' mind.

Wow, I didn't realize I saw the side-by-side pic. I don't think the 480/1 body is out of proportion with the neck. You certainly don't have to worry about neck dive!

[wim]

It must be a really frustrating job, leading the R&D department at Rickenbacker.
Desing the old one again, excactly the same please, or no, wait, build it like on 5th of februari 1966.
Maybe they ought to introduce a whole new range, that'd clear the backlog in seconds!

excuse me for the sarcasm

[jingle_jangle]

Nope.

[Ivan3000]

For example, the 4001C64 is all vintage looking but has double truss rods.

Rickenbacker basses have always had double truss rods.

I don't think the early ones did, I could be wrong though...

[Ivan3000]

New bass concept....
Rickenbacker Custom Shop Masterbuilt 1964 4001s relic.

You're gonna make Mr Hall use the F word...ending in ender

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