Can you help me identify my Rick?

[glen_l]

Yes this is true. That's what happens when you jump to the 2nd page of a thread without re-reading the first one. I forgot about the non standard tailpiece. In this case, yes it does suggest the guitar was a 365. Otherwise there would be the holes for the the R hook, which are closer in to the strap hole than the ones in this guitar.

However it's still true that internal markings are no indication of what the guitar would end up being assembled as. Clearly it's a marking the guitars were given after finishing but prior to fitting of hardware. A 360 would not have a 335 marking inside. A 330 body can't become a 360 after the finish process.

I understand Richard Smith sighted the factory invoices to come up with his totals. This would explain why he's also able to give quite a few specific examples of finished instruments in pg 225-9 to explain the sequencing.

The known serial number sequence makes the '65 total approx 2600 instruments. Smith's totals for '65 are 2400, not including lapsteels, so he's not completely out of the ballpark as we so often hear.

[jingle_jangle]

Depending upon which records were used for reference, figures could vary. It would seem that accurate shipping records would be the only reliable source for our purposes.

As someone with greater inside knowledge than most, what are your estimates for '60s production, Paul? Do you think the Smith book is close? I am always willing to revise my hypothesis!

I have no "inside knowledge" of anything having to do with 1960s production, Chuck...I'm a relative newcomer to this party!

[chucksimms]

Depending upon which records were used for reference, figures could vary. It would seem that accurate shipping records would be the only reliable source for our purposes.

As someone with greater inside knowledge than most, what are your estimates for '60s production, Paul? Do you think the Smith book is close? I am always willing to revise my hypothesis!

I have no "inside knowledge" of anything having to do with 1960s production, Chuck...I'm a relative newcomer to this party!

Alright, thanks! BTW, the '69 365 O.S. turquoise that you restored gets numerous accolades every time I gig with it. I have had two musicians in the last week that want to know everything about it. It is a striking instrument.

[jingle_jangle]

Good to know it's still turning heads, Chick. I restored it back in '06...

The finish is Azureglo, BTW. Turquoise is lighter and pearlescent, like this:

[jps]

Jeffrey: yep, just those 3 holes. Does that give you an idea what it shipped with?

Interesting, as the two bracket mounting holes are in different locations relative to the strap button hole, at least compared to the R bracket on my '67 330. I wonder if there were variations in the brackets?