I'm pretty sure it's a faker but need your input

ilan · Post by **ilan** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:36 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a faker but need your opinion before I report it to eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Rickenback ... 500wt_1413

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:16 pm

My gut on this was that it was a faker.

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:34 pm

Serial number checks out but there's lots of new parts there and some serious refinishing.

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:38 pm

sloop_john_b wrote:My gut on this was that it was a faker.

+1

A factory '71 fretboard wouldn't have the 19th dot.

Halbert · Post by **Halbert** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:39 pm

It is in the register too.

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:43 pm

Looks like the bubinga was stained dark to look like ebony.

wim · Post by **wim** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:00 pm

teeder wrote:
sloop_john_b wrote:My gut on this was that it was a faker.
+1

A factory '71 fretboard wouldn't have the 19th dot.

neither would it have two position markers at the nut.
Maybe the fretboard is new, but I think the bass is genuine.
It would absolutely be too much trouble to fake truss rod diving issues like this one seems to have suffered.

aceonbass · Post by **aceonbass** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:37 pm

I don't think it's a faker either. The tailpiece is definitely an AllParts unit though.

Seans · Post by **Seans** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:43 pm

Nice piece of maple for the neck.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:49 pm

I don't see anything except the weird tailpiece that gives me any red flags. I think John A. is right about the stained board, and of course Dane is correct on the tailpiece. The new parts look a bit strange on this--it looks like a much later instrument at first glance (until you notice the differences in profile, neck width and headstock shape, that is...). Weird paint scheme, though. Odd Japanese strap pegs.

HOW much?

s4001 · Post by **s4001** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:49 pm

I think it's the real deal. At least, what's left of it. I actually kinda like it. I've got a soft spot for 'S' type models from that era.

kennyhowes · Post by **kennyhowes** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:45 pm

It's kinda cool

antipodean · Post by **antipodean** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:39 am

Even with all the mods, it's very cool.

cassius987 · Post by **cassius987** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:50 am

I'd consider buying it at it's current price, but I bet it gets bid up. Seems decent enough. Not sure what the "two small anchors" are doing, though. Fretboard separation?

I like the dark/light/dark aesthetic, reminiscent of a 4004Ci but more of a contrast.

ilan · Post by **ilan** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:03 am

OK, good thing I consulted you guys before reporting to eBay what might be a genuine Ric.

For me the red lights were the dark fretboard and strings misalignment with the neck.

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