Heavy strings on a ric

[HydrasBreath]

nice looking basses guys! How does a toaster sound in the bridge position? I have a toaster in the neck on my 4001 and it has a bit of a "smooth" and "hollow" quality to it. Is it somewhat similar in the bridge position?

[cassius987]

nice looking basses guys! How does a toaster sound in the bridge position? I have a toaster in the neck on my 4001 and it has a bit of a "smooth" and "hollow" quality to it. Is it somewhat similar in the bridge position?

Not really hollow at all. You've got to remember pickup POSITION is at least as important if not a good deal more than pickup type in terms of the sound you'll get. The bridge position tends to have a harmonically rich sound that borders on a little burpy (doesn't hold a candle to a Fender Jazz in this regard though). With a Toaster in there you'll get a smoother, cleaner version of what a Hi-Gain would produce but it will still sound like a bridge pickup.

I recorded these tracks simultaneously using Ric-O-Sound into two mono channels so it's the exact same pickups and playing, but the positions are different.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=8091201
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=8091200

[HydrasBreath]

nice looking basses guys! How does a toaster sound in the bridge position? I have a toaster in the neck on my 4001 and it has a bit of a "smooth" and "hollow" quality to it. Is it somewhat similar in the bridge position?

Not really hollow at all. You've got to remember pickup POSITION is at least as important if not a good deal more than pickup type in terms of the sound you'll get. The bridge position tends to have a harmonically rich sound that borders on a little burpy (doesn't hold a candle to a Fender Jazz in this regard though). With a Toaster in there you'll get a smoother, cleaner version of what a Hi-Gain would produce but it will still sound like a bridge pickup.

I recorded these tracks simultaneously using Ric-O-Sound into two mono channels so it's the exact same pickups and playing, but the positions are different.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=8091201
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=8091200

thanks for the soundclips that bass sounds just as good as it looks! It's a sweet machine with lots of vintage vibe.

And I didn't mean hollow as in lacking tone or anything...just to me toasters seem a bit more scooped in the mids. But maybe that's just because they don't have as much bite as hi-gains since they aren't wound as much. I plan on adding 2 more Rics to my arsenal and double-toasterizing one of them sounds like an interesting prospect.

[rickfan63]

i used to use 50-110 on my ricks but cause we tuned down a semi tone and that kept the same string tension as the 45-105. i would not recommend 50-110 for a-440 standard tuning on a rick for structural reasons.

+1. I was always afraid to put really heavy strings on my Ricks for that reason.

[rickfan63]

i used to use 50-110 on my ricks but cause we tuned down a semi tone and that kept the same string tension as the 45-105. i would not recommend 50-110 for a-440 standard tuning on a rick for structural reasons.

+1. I was always afraid to put really heavy strings on my Ricks for that reason.

[coolingitdown]

So there IS an echo in here!

[cassius987]

=And I didn't mean hollow as in lacking tone or anything...just to me toasters seem a bit more scooped in the mids. But maybe that's just because they don't have as much bite as hi-gains since they aren't wound as much. I plan on adding 2 more Rics to my arsenal and double-toasterizing one of them sounds like an interesting prospect.

I would say modern Hi-Gains have a mid-range bump and Toasters are more flat (but would sound scooped by comparison to a Hi-Gain). If you really want to have fun with two Toasters, you can have Lindy Fralin remagnetize one of them so they hum-cancel when they're both on, like a Fender Jazz. It cost me $20, which I thought wasn't too bad. Works great.

[STOKKIs]

Just want to give you guys an update - Ive had the bass for about one week now - stringed it with rotosounds 45-105 flats and gave it a setup when it arrived. Its a stellar bass with great performance - neck seems stable so far. Ill take it to rehersal tomorrow for some real action. Funny thing - now i want one in jetglo!

[cjj]

Funny thing - now i want one in jetglo!

And the RAS begins...

[rickenbrother]

The 4003S/5 and 4003S/8 have the same neck as the 4003S, so your 4003S should be able to take the tension. It would just have to be set up right.

Also remember that the later design 4003's with the truss rod adjustment at the headstocks had the same necks as 4003S5's & S8's, which must have been able to take nearly 300lbs of string tension.

Is there an echo in here?

Well, we'll look at at it as back up or reinforcement of knowledge.

So there IS an echo in here!

Let's see...
Hello?




Hello?

Yep!

[HydrasBreath]

=And I didn't mean hollow as in lacking tone or anything...just to me toasters seem a bit more scooped in the mids. But maybe that's just because they don't have as much bite as hi-gains since they aren't wound as much. I plan on adding 2 more Rics to my arsenal and double-toasterizing one of them sounds like an interesting prospect.

I would say modern Hi-Gains have a mid-range bump and Toasters are more flat (but would sound scooped by comparison to a Hi-Gain). If you really want to have fun with two Toasters, you can have Lindy Fralin remagnetize one of them so they hum-cancel when they're both on, like a Fender Jazz. It cost me $20, which I thought wasn't too bad. Works great.

nice! I'll definitely keep that in mind.

[jps]

Funny thing - now i want one in jetglo!

What's so funny about that, that is a perfectly normal response!

[johnallg]

=And I didn't mean hollow as in lacking tone or anything...just to me toasters seem a bit more scooped in the mids. But maybe that's just because they don't have as much bite as hi-gains since they aren't wound as much. I plan on adding 2 more Rics to my arsenal and double-toasterizing one of them sounds like an interesting prospect.

I would say modern Hi-Gains have a mid-range bump and Toasters are more flat (but would sound scooped by comparison to a Hi-Gain). If you really want to have fun with two Toasters, you can have Lindy Fralin remagnetize one of them so they hum-cancel when they're both on, like a Fender Jazz. It cost me $20, which I thought wasn't too bad. Works great.

Or just pull out the magnetic rods and flip them over and reinsert.....

[cassius987]

Or just pull out the magnetic rods and flip them over and reinsert.....

I tried that repeatedly with no success before contacting Fralin's people.

[johnallg]

Or just pull out the magnetic rods and flip them over and reinsert.....

I tried that repeatedly with no success before contacting Fralin's people.

Yeah, they're glued in there pretty good.