Remaking The Horseshoe Bass Bobbin
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Jeffrey and Sean(Mr. Kelly), Thank you! 
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That full volume coil winding was 1 time, and I was able to finish it, without turning off the wire also at once.
The improved my winding machine contributed to this result. I will introducing you my upgraded coil winder next time again.
However, once, a wire twines round the base of a bobbin, and in order to solve it, I was reverse rotation carried out several turns by hand so, since the part and a count progressed, they are 8,400 turns exactly in practice. That 8,411 counted is not an error.
The number of these 6.8k ohms @ 8,400 is a number which I predicted from the beginning this project -- a result -- an error -- small -- there was only .012k ohms.
I said "right" for the formula shown from you, and, it is to be sure, they are actually right.
However, I did not follow them.
If it is said [ why ] whether be, the practical error will be included in those formulas as an element, and wait -- it is because I found that it was absent. It is a physical problem when it says roughly.
I have trying to explain it in replying several times, but it was surely difficult in my English. Since -- I thought that it was better for a result to show.
Although it may be able to ask for the detailed explanation about it from now on, it is very difficult to translate this correctly. I may be able to do somehow from now on at English.
However, please delight this result to me for the time being!
The improved my winding machine contributed to this result. I will introducing you my upgraded coil winder next time again.
However, once, a wire twines round the base of a bobbin, and in order to solve it, I was reverse rotation carried out several turns by hand so, since the part and a count progressed, they are 8,400 turns exactly in practice. That 8,411 counted is not an error.
The number of these 6.8k ohms @ 8,400 is a number which I predicted from the beginning this project -- a result -- an error -- small -- there was only .012k ohms.
I said "right" for the formula shown from you, and, it is to be sure, they are actually right.
However, I did not follow them.
If it is said [ why ] whether be, the practical error will be included in those formulas as an element, and wait -- it is because I found that it was absent. It is a physical problem when it says roughly.
I have trying to explain it in replying several times, but it was surely difficult in my English. Since -- I thought that it was better for a result to show.
Although it may be able to ask for the detailed explanation about it from now on, it is very difficult to translate this correctly. I may be able to do somehow from now on at English.
However, please delight this result to me for the time being!
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Re: Remaking The Horseshoe Bass Bobbin
Koji, your perseverance and hard work paid off. Glad the sound is what you wanted also. The coil I had Sergio in Portugal wind for my magnetic horse shoes was also 8.4k and sounds just great.
Sound clip if you can!
Sound clip if you can!
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It's good to see you got your bobbin made after all.Moonie Man wrote:...However, please delight this result to me for the time being!...
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Thank you, John.
I am beginning to consider some the technique now.johnallg wrote:Sound clip if you can!
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Hi! Brad,
I am glad to see you again.
Many thanks!
I am glad to see you again.
Many thanks!
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In manufacture of a coil winding machine, I reflect on having been a little insincere, and I have redesigned fundamentally from the foundation.
What was completed is this.

It became like the diorama of the gymnastics stadium of why and the Olympic Games.
The stainless steel pipe was used for the wire guide, and it set up to become height with the wire nearest to the position rolled round by the bobbin.
Thereby, it becomes average, and the tension which always starts a wire also wire tension control by a hand markedly, and becomes easy to carry out it. I have set the wire guide to the position of this 150 mm away from the bobbin according to advice of Sean(Seans). Thanks! Sean.
Moreover, the spool guide set on the base. It is for reducing a rate of accident as much as possible.
The budget about $10.00USD was newly supplied to this upgrade.
What was completed is this.
It became like the diorama of the gymnastics stadium of why and the Olympic Games.
The stainless steel pipe was used for the wire guide, and it set up to become height with the wire nearest to the position rolled round by the bobbin.
Thereby, it becomes average, and the tension which always starts a wire also wire tension control by a hand markedly, and becomes easy to carry out it. I have set the wire guide to the position of this 150 mm away from the bobbin according to advice of Sean(Seans). Thanks! Sean.
Moreover, the spool guide set on the base. It is for reducing a rate of accident as much as possible.
The budget about $10.00USD was newly supplied to this upgrade.
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I would like to reporting you about the sound of the Horseshoe Bass bobbin which I completed remaking but I am not confident in whether it is told well.

I think that the sound is probably the just from "that sound" which I and you know surely. It is sound with peculiar edge. And the sound in the bobbin for the Lap Steel Horseshoe differed in it again.
That the 6.812k ohms DCR was hot a little in the output volume. Consequently, It be loud in balance to Toaster Top of 6.762k ohms at front of my Bass. After all, I felt that about [ lower ] 6.3k ohms were appropriate like advice of John.
However, the volume(output) which is that it adjusts the height of pickup can be rectified.
In the Hoseshoe pickup, in the relation between a polepiece and a string, it is because it is still more sensitive than usual pickups. It is hesitation also in a transverse direction and volume changes a lot only by a string separating from a few horizontally to a polepiece. When a polepiece is surely located just under a string, and moreover, when near, a wonderful harmonics tone and great sustain are obtained. And it was amazing powerful. In my Bass of the present condition, this adjustment is not perfect. That is because the whole pickup assembly is shifted horizontally a little.
It seems that moreover, at least 12" radius is suitable for my Bass although I did the preset heights of the polepiece to 10" Radius.
In the Hoseshoe pickup, it turned out that the arrangement of a polepieces is very important.
I think that the sound is probably the just from "that sound" which I and you know surely. It is sound with peculiar edge. And the sound in the bobbin for the Lap Steel Horseshoe differed in it again.
That the 6.812k ohms DCR was hot a little in the output volume. Consequently, It be loud in balance to Toaster Top of 6.762k ohms at front of my Bass. After all, I felt that about [ lower ] 6.3k ohms were appropriate like advice of John.
However, the volume(output) which is that it adjusts the height of pickup can be rectified.
In the Hoseshoe pickup, in the relation between a polepiece and a string, it is because it is still more sensitive than usual pickups. It is hesitation also in a transverse direction and volume changes a lot only by a string separating from a few horizontally to a polepiece. When a polepiece is surely located just under a string, and moreover, when near, a wonderful harmonics tone and great sustain are obtained. And it was amazing powerful. In my Bass of the present condition, this adjustment is not perfect. That is because the whole pickup assembly is shifted horizontally a little.
It seems that moreover, at least 12" radius is suitable for my Bass although I did the preset heights of the polepiece to 10" Radius.
In the Hoseshoe pickup, it turned out that the arrangement of a polepieces is very important.
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In this project, I say gratitude to all the you who aided and supported here.
"ALI-GA-TO" (Thank you!)
"ALI-GA-TO" (Thank you!)
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ALI GA TO Koji for an amazing thread! What a learning process, I for one have learned a lot from your work and the advice of the forum members, again Thank you! 
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Koji, it is great to hear that you are satisfied with the results of your project. It is nice to know that after all that time, effort, and planning that you are successful.
Brad, I see you are no stranger to pickup construction. I just visited your website.
Brad, I see you are no stranger to pickup construction. I just visited your website.
"The best things in life aren't things."
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Ted and Ken,
I think that I am the result of the ability to accomplish by your support.
Thank you!
I think that I am the result of the ability to accomplish by your support.
Thank you!
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Re: Remaking The Horseshoe Bass Bobbin
I hate to break it to you, but that was a 1966 Fender Jazz Bass.Moonie Man wrote:Just like "Glass Onion" - White Album.
Sad, but true.
Also, I'm wondering why you used 42 AWG when you should have used 44.
But that's why it would sound like Glass Onion.
Nice work however.
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He didn't say it wasn't, just that it sounds like it.DavidSchwab wrote:I hate to break it to you, but that was a 1966 Fender Jazz Bass.Moonie Man wrote:Just like "Glass Onion" - White Album.
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That's funny. I've heard it was a JB on Glass Onion, but I always think "Horseshoe" when I hear that song and probably always will.
My '69 Rick comes so much closer to matching that song than my '65 JB ever did.
My '69 Rick comes so much closer to matching that song than my '65 JB ever did.
